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Jinna
https://www.peakenergy.com/health_ebytes/issue_9.php

OK, Dr Levy does not speak of E smog here, but by what I understood (after I heard an interview with him) is that any symptom we have that is bad has to do with oxidative stress.

Any symptom means = E smog symptoms too.

As I suffer from a lot of chronic infections and high toxicity (mercury, aluminum, lead are just three bad metals I've been trying to clean for more than a decade), I know that it does not matter whether I have an infection OR if I have a toxin in movement: symptoms are very similar.

You feel crap, that's it.

The moment I step into a Swiss train, I feel the fog coming in my brain, and if I stay more than 30min to 60 min, I will CERTAINLY get a headache, my body will get cold or opposite (varying temperatures), I just feel 20% of myself.

I'm pretty sure that feeling crap from ES can only be due to oxidative stress caused by the damn E smog, that damages tissues / enzymes,  and even activate infections (already proved in lab with some herpes strains), make fungi release extreme amounts of toxins (as they think we're attacking them with E-smog killing guns) and poison the whole body with very potent neurotoxins...

Damaging enzymes = damaging all metabolism in the body.

Making what we were supposed to do much slower. The damage to enzymes is irreversible, and that happens to about 2/3 of proteins which were analyzed in the lab in a Greek university (in a study I posted here some time ago).

Meaning that digestion goes bad (that will increase toxines), immune system goes bad (it will allow nasty critters to grow and they are ALL toxic), excretion is damaged (meaning, toxins that our bodies still can flush out stay in), etc..

That is what E-smog does to cells in lab =they damage physically proteins, in an irreversible way.
So whatever happens with E-smog, it has to do with oxidative stress.

As our bodies cannot make Vit C, and Vit C travels easily in the body, mops up oxidants, and even it is a binder (binds to toxins and help them be flushed off the body), it could be a good starting point for many of us to take in vit C in a daily basis (probably many times a day, even).

Liposomal Vit C has an excellent press as it crosses INTRA cellular, mopping up oxidants intracellular (that water soluble vit C cannot do).

It seems it is even more efficient that IV Vit C (that is still not reaching intracelllular as well).

Besides Vit C can prevent a lot of bone problems, cardio vascular problems, even help us to kill some bad candida in the gut it seems... But you need it in high doses. One way to get them in high doses is through liposomal option.

For those with low budget, you can buy a small device to produce it home, for a fraction of the price of commercial lipossomal vit C.

i'm too lazy to try, so I think I will start with the commercial version. It seems it tastes awful though...
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Jinna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJA3d5cP41Y

He thinks juicing with good Vit C rich foods is best than supplementing...
I suppose he talks about less bad cases... Not desperate cases like some of us...
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Plop Plop
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If you step into a Swiss train are you not reacting to the strong magnetic field? Have you measured it with a meter? Its just your blood magnetising and sticking together that makes you feel shit. It cannot transport oxygen.
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Jinna
I think it's the wifi they installed there that makes me ill.

Before they installed wi fi, I could travel 3, 4 hours without noticing much...

It's only since they announced all bigger trains had wifi in all wagons that the problem started.

I could stand about 1 hour in the past, but then, the time of tolerance got smaller... Now I can sense something wrong from the first 20 minutes I'm in a train.

It could also be the magnetic fields, or more, a combination of Esmog that causes me symptoms, of course. Specially when all these people around me have laptops + smart phones on, and are playing with them the whole time, in a full train.

If I were still ultra sensitive like years ago, i think I would not be able to stand 5 hours in one go, like I did this weekend, not even with the Coufal Bodyguard...

I don't need to take the train often, so it's not a big deal. But if I have, I need to buy special clothes I guess.
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SuperLaura
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I would be interested to hear how it works for you. You are going to try this one?

https://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/liposome-encapsulated/lypo-spheric-vitamin-c.html
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Jinna
Super Laura, thanks a lot for the link.

It was a bit busy last week, I haven't decided what to do.

I'm reading more about the subject, but I think I'll buy the ultrasonic device and try it.

If I were in the US, I would buy dr. Mercola's version to try, but if I import just a few boxes of it to Switzerland (2 or 3), I am able to buy a good device and the ingredients to do it myself.

I'll let you know if I try it.

I'm now on my Bio Medici experiments + whole sessions of MFT (mental field therapy), and it's been already too much for me too. Some profound transformations happening...
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Jinna
I finally bought and made my own liposomal vit C with vodka, very concentrate.

I also did liposomal acerola powder, but not too concentrate.

The ascorbic acid one  was much better, at least initially.

I never really was a fan of ascorbic acid, because it burned my stomach and caused me easily loose stools.

This one, so far, causes me nothing in that sense, but many things happen inside my body.


First dose: I got a surge of energy, decided to spend it walking.

During the first day, my nostrils got dried up (I've been fighting some pollen or whatever allergy for months...).

When the effect of the lipo C dies out, the nostrils start to fill slowly again (in the morning, they were stuffed)...

My sense of smell seems to change a bit, my eyes got like more sharp vision, I got needle pricking pains in some teeth (on and off), my intestines were making sounds...


The first night, I could not sleep well, as the lipo C did charge my body with energy, so I 'll avoid it after 4pm.

The first morning, all my muscles got sore, as though after intense exercise (which I did not do).


I feel the effect exactly where my body has low grade inflammation: sinuses, joints, throat.

Toes got pains on and off. Shoulders. Knees.
 
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Jinna
Whatever this is doing, I hope it's good. It feels like things are moving.

The taste is awful though. The lipo-acerola did barely anything to me (I guess, I take a lot of fruits, and I do drink pressed acerola juice sometimes ).

So if anyone would like to start, start directly with ascorbic acid or similar powders.


After a while I got the beginning of headache, which I suppose, comes from the toxin pulling effect.
 I read it goes away if you take more lipo C, sipping it during the day.

It did help this way, the headache did not develop.


Had I known this is so powerful and that it, so far, does not hurt my stomach, I would have taken that before.

It is even better than MSM powder ( I mean, the effect of cleansing).
 Next time, I will do a mixture between MSM and ascorbic acid.


I'm still new in this liposomal-making 'business', but I highly recommend it.

It's very anti inflammatory. I see the effect immediately on my sinuses / nostrils / throat, how everything gets dried up for hours after intake.

I don't think normal vit C would do that, at least, not so fast.

But I can't compare, as I was never able to take a lot of ascorbic acid.

I used a recipe from a patented liposomal (I mean, similar to the recipe, with alcohol, so that I can do it more concentrate than usual internet recipes).

It's very impressive.


If I don't get digestive symptoms, stomach pains, I think this would become a major part of my life.

It's easy to do, somehow, even though it may take some time.
The more concentrate lecithin you do, the more time you spend.

The ultrasound device I bought is 160 watts, and creates a bad effect though (I think this specific ultrasound is not healthy at all....).

But you can let the device run in a place and just come after it turns off.
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Jinna
As for the ES symptoms, mine are very low.

As this stuff charges my body with energy (anti oxidants give electrons to cells), I do think that after a while, it will be beneficial to anyone that has low energy, headaches etc.

Example: the ultrasound caused headaches to my daughter. So when the lipo C was ready, I gave her a bit, and her headache disappeared rather fast.

I don't know if it disappeared so fast because the ultrasound device was turned off, though...

Just the energy I get from it, it is worth!
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Jinna
This stuff changes my sleeping patterns.

First night, I think I drank too much during the day, and got so much muscle pains.

Next days, I was more careful, so I only take about 50 ml the whole day.

My nights are much shorter, but I wake up with more energy.

it seems my sleep is deeper, but I still do not remember my dreams (lately)...

It is also changing my gut a bit, I think, but so far, no lose stools.

I'm using that against dust or pollen reactions, or mold. My sinuses get cleaner after intake of lipo C.

It gives me a deep kind of energy, similar to the Vit D3 /K2 / propolis / omega 3. If I take these 4 supplements on a daily base I do feel my inner energy being charged (not immediately, but I notice my days go better).

The Lipo C has a similar effect, I think, but it's much faster to notice.

This high concentrated Lipo C was a very impressive surprise.

 I even think I got more moisture in the skin, it looks less dry, much softer.

I'm also on a parasite cleanse, so it could be also from the parasite cleanse, who knows....


These days, my inner batteries are lasting longer, even though I still feel I need some more energy.

It has been a nice surprise, and as I read that one cannot really overdose vit C, well, I'll try to ramp it up slowly.

the best part of all are my joints. I did not have big problems in joints, but my right shoulder bothered me for more than 2 years. It feels much more oiled.

I know that Vit C is essential for collagen building too. But it can't happen so fast, I suppose.

I also had a thumb that popped the whole time and now, it feels like popping less.

 As I said, it feels all my joints are getting oiled. It could be the lechitin, too I suppose?

If anyone wants to try it, please post your experiences here!!
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Romana
How safe is this liposomal vitamin c? As I have problem with "all" other vitamin-c supplements including acerola powder etc. But I don't have problem drinking 3dl og orange juice which equeals 100mg vitamin c for example.
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Jinna
I don't know what your problem with vit C is, so I can only talk about my own problems with vit C.

Ascorbic acid always burned my stomach. I disliked taking it, so I rarely take it. Like you, I eat loads of fruits and veggies (raw too), plus the blueberry + cherry + acerola juice, so I SUPPOSED I was already loaded of vit C.

This recent experience with Lipo C shows me something from a total different perspective.

Vit C is water soluble, not fat soluble. So it will act in the body through lymph, and it will not bind to fats (like cell walls, biofilms, heavy metals, pesticides etc).

Almost all toxins are fat soluble. Toxins = oxidants.

The Lipo C will bind to these fat soluble toxins or cell walls, joints, biofilms etc. It goes through a total different path than water soluble vit C.

That is what is doing, I suppose. Many of my joints are in pain, on and off. I take more Lipo C, the pain stops.  I know that it is acting inside the joints.

Drinking loads of Vit C in natural forms does stuff to my brain, I think (it makes my brain clear, a bit), but I need super high amount of natural vit C in blueberry, lemon, cherry, acerola to feel that.

The Lipo C makes this refreshing effect too, even though I take only 1 gram of ascorbic acid a day.

I intend to increase it. So far, no tummy pains, no loose stools. I only had headaches first day, that disappeared after I ingested more Lipo C, once the headache started.

This is as safe as ascorbic acid can be. People with severe diseases will take up to 100 grams a day!!!! I never took more than 2 grams a day.

Linus Pauling was taking 20 grams a day (if my memory is good), and lived long, and was still actively doing his research almost until the day of his death.

This is the website with research on vit C

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C
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Jinna
https://restoretotalwellness.com/could-correcting-voltage-be-the-answer-to-curing-disease/

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/09/17/body-voltage-dictates-health-and-disease.aspx

I'm just posting these 2 articles because they make so much sense, specially for us with ES...

We suffer oxidative stress from electrosmog, we are more affected than the 'normal' population (even though everyone is affected, but they may feel less)...

The reason why they feel less can be - in my opinion - because their body voltage (cell voltage, mitochondria voltage) is HIGHER than us, with ESensitivities.

Any super antioxidant treatment can help raising voltage (in the sense that it raises pH, facilitates the battery charge of cells and mitochondria).

Fatigue is a sign of low voltage / oxidative stress.

Earthing help us lower our ES symptoms because it gives us electrons, raise our body potential, probably.

This vit C experiment is giving me so much energy that is almost unbelievable. I'm sleeping much less, and so is my daughter, but we wake up more 'fresh'.

my energy is lasting longer in the evening too.

all this makes a lot of sense....
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Jinna
the best site about liposomal vit C I found:

http://qualityliposomalc.com/
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Slic60
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I agree that lipo C should work for ES due to the oxidative stress perspective.  Natural forms and straight ascorbic acid are OK but you simply can't absorb enough without getting gut issues. I've used Mercola's Lipo C for a few years on and off for colds and flu and it definitely works for that.

This is why I suggested in a post to try Carbon 60 in olive oil.  It's 172X stronger antioxidant than Vit-C and the olive oil doesn't cause diarrhea unless you take a huge dose.  C60 can go straight to the mitochondria and sit in the lipid bilayer, eating up free radicals as they approach or are produced. The same C60 molecule can neutralize up to 34 or more free radicals and stays in the body for about 10 hours.

Heavy metals and other toxins are attracted to the carbon 60 and neutralized which helps for detoxing.

I usually suffer from allergies right now, but using C60 OO is keeping the symptoms to an occasional sneeze. This is my first spring-time taking it and I'm very pleased so far.

Go to slic60.com where I wrote an article on it with links to some of the studies.  I sell it for the simple reason that it works so amazing for me for energy, sleep, asthma/allergies.  I've tried it on burns, bee stings and eczema with really impressive results.  I'd really like to get some feedback from others so that's why I posted the coupon code.  It's priced just so I can cover the cost of shipping and manufacture.
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Jinna
So the C60 is fat soluble too?

I'm having the same experience as you, concerning allergies: the lipo C is going exactly in places with inflammation and thick mucus: inside my left nostril (the one that is affected, due to dead teeth, cavitation surgery, probably heavy metals).

I feel so much braver now, that I even consumed a bit of gluten again.

I also have mold allergy and mite allergy, and wake up with stuffed nose. Today, barely nothing for the first time this spring!!

Everywhere I have symptoms, the Lipo C is going after, in an on and off manner. Like a scavenger of free radicals, I suppose.

I'm curious about this C60 too, but I'll continue longer with my Vit C to see what it does.

I hope the C60 does NOT bind to good minerals, the same way as ACTIVATED charcoal does.

I could never tolerate activated charcoal for longer, and it is said to bind to everything, not only the 'bad' stuff...

How would C60 behave (for example, with iron, magnesium, iodine, etc)? Would you have info about it?

Thanks!
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Jinna
I thought I was taking just 1 gram of liposomal Vit C a day, but in fact, I'm taking 4-5 grams a day.

According to dr Levi and other doctors, it is equivalent to about 40 to 80 grams of IV Vit C!!

To save a life from severe infection, sepsis, drs use 100 grams of IV Vit C daily.

 So just the double of what I take, orallly!!

No wonder I have trouble falling asleep. I mean, instead of falling asleep almost immediately, like before, I spend some minutes I need to spend on bed before falling asleep... Possibly 10-20 minutes??

Lipo Vit C is found in the blood until 10 hours after ingestion.

I'm going to lower the dose, to 2 grams a day I think.

Today I woke up all achy again, this time, from inside my shin bone.

my daughter went downstairs limping from her left knee: she got severe lyme disease long ago there, and dr Klinghardt's practitioners told us it was due to heavy metals (my mercury, as I breast fed her).

The fact that the liposomal Vit C is going exactly there is great, as it is probably helping to chelate metals there.

My previous experiences with heavy metal detox - more than 10 years doing that, on and off - is that, removing metals can be painful. Exact spots with inflammation, infection will become painful after starting a new chelator.

After a while, the chelator stops working, and no pain anymore. Until the next chelator. And so on and on, it's been an endless journey.

I'm with higher hopes this liposomal Vit C will do the job better than previous chelators, as it is going to my joints too.

I feel my lungs / throat are also liquefying, I mean, it feels like I'm getting like a car wash session, from inside out.

i'm going to lower the dose, because I feel it's getting hard to relax, it's like I took tons of coffee the whole day.

One great thing that happened yesterday, I remember one dream.

Many of us, suffering from the KPU /HPU problem (low zinc, B6, manganese...) do not remember dreams.

I'm reading more and more about liposomal vit C.


If you guys don't try it, you won't know what you are losing!!

Just start slow, though, not like me... unless you are in great need.
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Jinna
I gave the liposomal Vit C to a man, who is E-Sensitive, and also suffers from migraines, due to several spine and skull injuries (brain included).

He's on disability for the last 30-40 years (stopped working at an early age, after the last big accident).

He usually avoids any chemical drugs, but he still uses drugs for migraines.

He was about to take his pills, feeling cold, his chest was hurting, when I arrived with a little bottle of lipo C.

I gave a bit to him (about 1 gram, 10 ml). After 10 minutes he took his pullover off, too hot.

After 30 minutes, he was already very talkative, in much better mood. After 60 minutes, his migraine was just 10%!!!!

He did NOT TAKE his drugs!!!


Next day, the warm feeling repeated after 10 minutes. He's now convinced it does come from the Liposomal C.

His 2nd main problem after head and spine symptoms, is his gut, digestion.

His 3rd main problem, sleep!!! Hard nights. Like all ES people.

He slept 10 hours today!!!

His whole building now is asking me for a bottle of lipo C.

I'm going to make some to distribute to them. One of his neighbors suffers from MS, and two kids are always sick with something...

Let's see what comes.

I diminished the dose to 10 ml, max 15 ml a day for myself and added cleansing substances 2 x a day, to cope with the detox that the Vit C is doing to my body.

My sinuses get a cleansing / drying effect in about 30-60 minutes after the lipo C.

My ES is at its lowest, since I knew I suffer from ES.

I'll prepare the 3rd batch today to take to our vacations. I'll certainly increase the dose for the airplane.

I would NEVER EVER imagine that Vit C could do this to me. Never. I barely feel anything when I drink the effervescent tabs, except for stomach aches.

The best type of Vit C I ever took was simply: taking LOADS of fresh fruits in a go, empty stomach.

This lipo C is certainly superior to any juice, possibly compared to what I felt with concentrate acai juice, or the mix of wild blueberries + other berries. The problem with these natural solutions is that the effect lasts short and the effect never really goes to my most problematic points: joints, teeth, sinuses.

Lipo C goes exactly where my main problems are!!!
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Jinna
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http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm

This is an amazing booklet about what vit C does.

Amazing stuff, really, easy to read, even if a bit long.
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