What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

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What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

black-sun
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The cheapest way to measure dirty electricity // A portable AM radio + TriField EM100 or AlphaLab Line EMI Meter

Additional gadgets that help measure dirty electricity.

* Esmog Spion for measuring electromagnetic radiation between 0Hz and 3Ghz.
* Gigahertz Solutions ME3851A for measuring dirty electric field and dirty magnetic field coming from wires

The best ways I know of fixing dirty electricity

* Replace lightings and switches that produce dirty electricity
* Replace dirty solar inverter with a cleaner one
* Replace smart meter with an analogue meter.
* (Whole-house) dirty electricity filter
  * SineTamer // filters dirty electricity between 1khz and 10mhz
  * DNA filter // ???
  * SEPA filter // which uses impedance mismatch for filtering dirty electricity between 150Khz and 30Mhz.
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

Marc Martin
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On July  5, black-sun [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The cheapest way to measure dirty electricity // A portable AM radio +
> TriField EM100 or AlphaLab Line EMI Meter

Surprised you didn't mention the Stetzerizer meter & filters.  Or Greenwave.  These seem to be the most common meters & filters  for dirty electricity.

I have an AlphaLab meter as well, but that seems not useful at all.  Unless I got a bad copy of it, it always reads about the same, no matter what nasty thing I plug into the outlet next to it.  While the Stetzerizer meter and an AM radio show clear differences.
 
>  * SineTamer // filters dirty electricity between 1khz and 10mhz
>  * DNA filter // ???
>  * SEPA filter // which uses impedance mismatch for filtering dirty
> electricity between 150Khz and 30Mhz.

We had someone on the Facebook group who tried virtually everything out there for his sensitivity to dirty electricity, and I believe it was only the DNA filters that actually helped his symptoms.

Marc
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

black-sun
Stetzer MicroSurge meter could be the best choice if its frequency range was as wide as greenwave or alphalab.

TriField EM100 measures peak instead of average. Stetzer microsurge meter measures speed of change in voltage.
I don't know what greenwave measures.

In many videos I watched, AlphaLab Line EMI Meter was more sensitive than Stetzer MicroSurge meter.
Stetzer MicroSurge meter gives more insight between 10khz and 100khz. But, above 100khz, AlphaLab is better.
If AlphaLab showed peak and average, it would be good.

I don't know much about greenwave. Some EMF consultant who doesn't sell line EMI meters said greenwave was inaccurate. That's about all I know.

Did he test SineTamer, too?
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Marc Martin
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On July  7, black-sun [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Did he test SineTamer, too?

Yes, he tested the SineTamer, and returned it.

Marc
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

black-sun
Why did he return SineTamer? Can I hear details?
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

Marc Martin
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On July  8, black-sun [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Why did he return SineTamer? Can I hear details?

He returned it because it did not help his symptoms sufficiently.  I don't recall if it didn't help at all, or merely not enough.

The DNA filter on the on the other hand did help enough for him to keep it.

Marc
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

black-sun
Without oscilloscope or spectrum analyzer, it's really difficult to tell whether a product works properly.
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

Karl
You also need a pretty good oscilloscope if you want to measure up to 30 MHz or higher.  Maybe 150 million samples per second for 30 MHz.

I have not tried it yet, but I've been told by an engineer that it's possible to measure high frequency noise on a 120V circuit through a high pass filter, followed by an envelope detector.

You would connect the top left part of a circuit like this to the noisy wire, then connect the resistor to an electrical ground:

http://www.learningaboutelectronics.com/Articles/High-pass-filter-calculator.php

Then you'd connect the right side of the capacitor to something like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/0-1M-6GHz-RF-AM-Envelope-Detector-Amplitude-Detection-Discharge-Signal-Detection/283424032214

(I think the outer part of the BNC connectors can also be connected to the same ground.)

...and finally connect the output of that (which is converted to DC) to a multimeter.
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

black-sun
If there was a line EMI meter that measures both hot wire and neutral wire, it would be easier to measure dirty electricity.
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Re: What would be the best affordable way to measure and fix dirty electricity?

earthworm
the stetzer meters are designed to show that the stetzer filters work.

to copy an old post :

this guy Conrad mentions these filters in his scam-list :
http://www.conradbiologic.com/articles/EMFscams.html
we all get scammed once in a while.
aside from these bad results, Charles stated that using more than five filters can create unhealthy resonances.
also worth reading :
http://www.emfrelief.com/capacitive-filters.html
"So a capacitor filter, by whatever name, will Not make your electricity cleaner, but dirtier."  ( ...) !

"I have an AlphaLab meter as well, but that seems not useful at all.  Unless I got a bad copy of it, it always reads about the same, no matter what nasty thing I plug into the outlet next to it."
i had an AlphaLab meter ( it disappeared somehow ) too and it showed clearly much higher readings as a result of using switching mode power supplies, e.g. from a pc.
so it seems that indeed you have the bad luck to have bad copy.