What's worse, ELFs or RFs?

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What's worse, ELFs or RFs?

Miller
If you had to make an argument what do you feel is more detrimental to your health, low frequency magnetic fields or high (radio) frequency magnetic fields? I'm leaning toward high frequency. I feel better when I'm at home where RFs are pretty low. At my work the levels are pretty high due to wifi and wifi from neighboring businesses plus area cell tower activity. Oddly, on my drive home I encounter even higher RF levels on about half of the drive. I can't recall being terribly affected by LFs, but the jury is still out.
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Marc Martin
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I'm sure it varies by person, but for me it definitely seems to be high frequencies.

 
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I would say the microwave spectrum is worse, and I think around 2100mhz is the worst.

Microwaves are created intentionally and sent out for big distances, whereas ELF are not intentional, at least powerline noise is not. So ELFs normally have less energy and don't travel as far.
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charles
There was a study with mice, where the scientists wanted to reach the inner core of the brains.
(With humans that is a very difficult and tricky thing.)
They managed to do that with very low frequencies. High frequencies did not have any effect.

It is my opinion that the most harmful frequencies are not the RF, but the low to mid frequencies , expecially from 1Hz to 5kHz up to 10MHz.

Be aware that the RF do have components of these frequencies. For instance Wifi has 10Hz, GSM mobile 211Hz, GSM masts 1733Hz. I have measured nice 100kHz frequencies in UMTS senders.



The inhabitants of this house could not live on the front of the house, because of mobile phonemasts on topof the building across the street.
I could measure the aforementioned frequencies in the front of the house, and so a grounded catch-antenna was constructed against the outer wall (a copper pipe with plastic covering).
Since then, the furniture was replaced to the front of the house, and they evenj copuld work for hours in the garden, which was not possible before that. On the mobile phone masts, nothing was done.

Placing a BioProtect card under the cables of a mobile phone masts can also have a positive effect, like a strip of adhesive aluminium tape around the cable.
See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina600.html

At the moment I am now trying to tackle a new problem.
Persons who do not react to *normal* elektrosmog anymore, like masts, DECT, Wifi, etc.  do now react to very subtle energies, like coming from an (empty) honey comb. (Grebennikov)
Even meters away through concrete walls.
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Miller
Charles, thanks for the post. Do you have a web page link to the study where the inner core of the brain was reached via low frequencies?

Also, what are the RF components that put off these low frequencies (such as in a GSM phone)?
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charles
The article appeared in a Dutch journal.
The tests were done at MIT.



I have found the original article :
http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(17)30584-6

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Miller
I've read that this method (or similar?) has been used therapeutically to treat Parkinsons
https://www.michaeljfox.org/understanding-parkinsons/living-with-pd/topic.php?deep-brain-stimulation

Also, Martin Pall has studied the effects EMFs have on VGCCs and that some of these depending on their frequency/modulation/intensity can have either therapeutic or detrimental effects.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780531/
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