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steve
Hey there,
Anyone ever hear of this?
I got a link sent to me by The Truth About Cancer people, Ty Bollinger. I'm getting skeptical about that group since they seem to like to mainly promote expensive supplements, etc.

https://go2.thetruthaboutcancer.com/waverider/

It's $1,000! Yikes
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The Truth About Cancer people seem to be associated with Gia products, which is multi-level marketing, and the only people I see online who say they work are those who sell them.

This new Waverider looks to be the same technology found in other Gia products, so one could try those and establish if they work or don't work, before trying something more expensive.

Marc

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1000$ far a magic device? 
They lost me on the " there was an easy way for you to keep your technology, use it, embrace it and STILL protect yourself from the harmful effects of EMF"
amirb

I hope this info helps.
Thanks and best regards
Amir Borenstein

Minimize the use of cellphone and wireless
devices before the use minimizes you!
SENT FROM A WIRED CONNECTION!!!


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Hey there,
Anyone ever hear of this?
I got a link sent to me by The Truth About Cancer people, Ty Bollinger. I'm getting skeptical about that group since they seem to like to mainly promote expensive supplements, etc.

https://go2.thetruthaboutcancer.com/waverider/

It's $1,000! Yikes


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One can ignore the marketing hype and simply research the inventor, Dr. Igor Smirnov, and his company Global Quantech:

http://www.gqusa.com/

If you read/hear enough about it, it sounds like it might help.  At least, it did to me.  However, I purchased some of the cheaper Gia items, and found that they did not help me.

Marc
 
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Yeah, TTAC has been hawking stuff left and right and they clearly know what they're doing, the 'articles' are well written but clearly geared towards hucksterism.
I may end up just unsubscribing from their emails because they're getting on my nerves
Steve



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The Truth About Cancer people seem to be associated with Gia products, which is multi-level marketing, and the only people I see online who say they work are those who sell them.

This new Waverider looks to be the same technology found in other Gia products, so one could try those and establish if they work or don't work, before trying something more expensive.

Marc




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In the beginning I really liked Ty and TAC, but recently I noticed he seems to be selling out. I loved his many docu-series and he bought into public so many viable valid working alternatives to conventional treatment.  In one episode he mentioned a green drink product, that further research showed it would be fabulous if one had the budget for it.  As of recent he has done lots of collaberation to come up w/ his own product line and is now pushing a new green drink for even more $$ and reading the label made me realize my money would be better spent on a bag of Doritos [never in my likfe].  I have subscribed for some-time to him and chrisbeatscancer before that. It's been mostly spam for the past year, though every so often something of value that is not marketing has come through.  He really had some good stuff in the past and good reliable cure/health info, but I have since lost trust and respect for his views.  Seeing him push this $1000 snake oil companion is the nail in the coffin for any faith in his movement.  

For so long he had EMF issues on the back burner as causes for cancer and now w/ the new product there is a morass of info that will create mass awareness.  Note:  the same thing has happened over the years w/ fibromyalgia and Lyrica. Many fibro Dr's were against the big marketing campaign, but did not fight it and the reason is all the ads created awareness. In the end the whole thing made it harder for those of us with fibro. We are no longer taken seriously for the illness and we are fully to blame now for our suffering, as we are not taking the cure-Lyrica. As most here know it does not work and did not work for me. Very addictive and lots of bad side effects and tolerance build up fast and the fibro pain is nothing but worse on it.

So here we go again!  Ty is building awareness. Now there is this supposed cure. So no more need for smart meter opt outs. Or wifi free places or to keep the gadgets away from us and if we are literally dying from the neighbors' wifi, it will be our fault for not springing for the $1K plastic thing and if we do the wifi will still be hurting us.   In all it again just makes things worse.

I really wish there was a magic pendant I could wear or a magic pill I could pop or a magic set of tapes I could buy that would make me rich from real estate. NOPE! There just isn't. Logic and use of brain cells are probably my best friend here, in that sensible ways to avoid can be deduced. Some of these magic things that probably do make a lot of people feel better. No different than all the stuff sold by Mexican drug cartels and big pharma-they would make ES symptoms feel better too. Help it they do not. Cause harm they do.  Having a false cure will only lead to getting worse.

Nothing is worse than being told somewhere I am going has no wifi-they lied and then after being there some time ending up in a catatonic stupor and then having a mini stroke the next day!

Too bad as TAC had a wonderful mission, but every good thing comes to an end eventually. Of course I still have my common sense and will continue to weed through the information overload to make the best health choices, believing nothing question everything and taking most w/ a grain of salt and thinking for myself.

I have as of recent found a lot better more reliable info from Dr. Mercola's newsletter, but again not everything is right on there either so it takes research as to whether you want to buy each parcel of advice.

I must say overall I am disappointed in TAC.

Hope this helps for what it's worth.
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steve
I am close to cancelling gthe TTAC emails but I'm waiting a little longer.
I also subscribe to Mercola's emails and I agree they are much better.
I also have fibro, when it flares there is really nothing that helps much so I just have to wait until it calms down. I do get some relief from Celadrin Capsules as long as I take 3 at a time. I take magnesium even though it doesn't do much for me.
Steve



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Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 9:16 PM
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In the beginning I really liked Ty and TAC, but recently I noticed he seems to be selling out. I loved his many docu-series and he bought into public so many viable valid working alternatives to conventional treatment.  In one episode he mentioned a green drink product, that further research showed it would be fabulous if one had the budget for it.  As of recent he has done lots of collaberation to come up w/ his own product line and is now pushing a new green drink for even more $$ and reading the label made me realize my money would be better spent on a bag of Doritos [never in my likfe].  I have subscribed for some-time to him and chrisbeatscancer before that. It's been mostly spam for the past year, though every so often something of value that is not marketing has come through.  He really had some good stuff in the past and good reliable cure/health info, but I have since lost trust and respect for his views.  Seeing him push this $1000 snake oil companion is the nail in the coffin for any faith in his movement.  

For so long he had EMF issues on the back burner as causes for cancer and now w/ the new product there is a morass of info that will create mass awareness.  Note:  the same thing has happened over the years w/ fibromyalgia and Lyrica. Many fibro Dr's were against the big marketing campaign, but did not fight it and the reason is all the ads created awareness. In the end the whole thing made it harder for those of us with fibro. We are no longer taken seriously for the illness and we are fully to blame now for our suffering, as we are not taking the cure-Lyrica. As most here know it does not work and did not work for me. Very addictive and lots of bad side effects and tolerance build up fast and the fibro pain is nothing but worse on it.

So here we go again!  Ty is building awareness. Now there is this supposed cure. So no more need for smart meter opt outs. Or wifi free places or to keep the gadgets away from us and if we are literally dying from the neighbors' wifi, it will be our fault for not springing for the $1K plastic thing and if we do the wifi will still be hurting us.   In all it again just makes things worse.

I really wish there was a magic pendant I could wear or a magic pill I could pop or a magic set of tapes I could buy that would make me rich from real estate. NOPE! There just isn't. Logic and use of brain cells are probably my best friend here, in that sensible ways to avoid can be deduced. Some of these magic things that probably do make a lot of people feel better. No different than all the stuff sold by Mexican drug cartels and big pharma-they would make ES symptoms feel better too. Help it they do not. Cause harm they do.  Having a false cure will only lead to getting worse.

Nothing is worse than being told somewhere I am going has no wifi-they lied and then after being there some time ending up in a catatonic stupor and then having a mini stroke the next day!

Too bad as TAC had a wonderful mission, but every good thing comes to an end eventually. Of course I still have my common sense and will continue to weed through the information overload to make the best health choices, believing nothing question everything and taking most w/ a grain of salt and thinking for myself.

I have as of recent found a lot better more reliable info from Dr. Mercola's newsletter, but again not everything is right on there either so it takes research as to whether you want to buy each parcel of advice.

I must say overall I am disappointed in TAC.

Hope this helps for what it's worth.


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TTAC's original missions so great.  I did not comment on yesterday's article. Today I received blatent spam for the magic device and I went back to the articel article and said my piece.   I am not alone in the comments.

This morning I was about ready to start marking his mailings as "junk" and turning on a "junk" folder in my mail program. A prelude to "un-subbing" which I am fastly too feeling may be something I was not thinking of when I left the dissertation yesterday.

I think we all need to leave comments at TTAC!  It could be that he really thinks that wave thing is the answer, but I doubt it. I think it's more of getting off track to "earn".

I am disappointed.

Also I want to note: in the last docuseries, one of the cures bought up was a "pulsed" emf device. I took that w/ grain of salt, but it did raise some huge flags for me to make me wary overall. Not saying that could not help someone, somewhere who is not ES, but it did not sit right.

I tend often w/ much of the things listed-to go to amazon and read review of valid purchasers and evaluate if those are legit reviews. Essiac tea stacked up big-seems to cure more cancer ridden dogs-said volumes. I actually eliminate 100's of products that way, leaving only the Essiac tea and a couple other items on my wish list, for more research when I have the funds to try.

So please Ty needs to hear from us EMF folks.
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steve
I agree. I'm keeping subscribed for now but TTAC is on my watch list if it keeps up
Steve



From: JDark [via ES] <[hidden email]>
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TTAC's original missions so great.  I did not comment on yesterday's article. Today I received blatent spam for the magic device and I went back to the articel article and said my piece.   I am not alone in the comments.

This morning I was about ready to start marking his mailings as "junk" and turning on a "junk" folder in my mail program. A prelude to "un-subbing" which I am fastly too feeling may be something I was not thinking of when I left the dissertation yesterday.

I think we all need to leave comments at TTAC!  It could be that he really thinks that wave thing is the answer, but I doubt it. I think it's more of getting off track to "earn".

I am disappointed.

Also I want to note: in the last docuseries, one of the cures bought up was a "pulsed" emf device. I took that w/ grain of salt, but it did raise some huge flags for me to make me wary overall. Not saying that could not help someone, somewhere who is not ES, but it did not sit right.

I tend often w/ much of the things listed-to go to amazon and read review of valid purchasers and evaluate if those are legit reviews. Essiac tea stacked up big-seems to cure more cancer ridden dogs-said volumes. I actually eliminate 100's of products that way, leaving only the Essiac tea and a couple other items on my wish list, for more research when I have the funds to try.

So please Ty needs to hear from us EMF folks.


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JDark
You can see the comment I put yesterday to him:  under the name primadonnagoingoffgrid:  https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/dirty-electricity-emf/?utm_campaign=dirty-electricity-emf&utm_medium=email&utm_source=maropost&utm_content=2017-03-06&utm_term=

We all need to comment.  Left another under the video he sent the link of today, but more to the extent of just avoidance works, gadgets don't and maybe he could help create some better shielding items or RF free communities.  That to not make myself look like a Pharma adversary that wants to discredit him [he is doing a nice job of that on his own], but someone who has been there and wants TY's movement to succeed, as I do.

I also submitted a question for his thing tomorrow: basically asking what the meter reading are in the area when the device is in use vs not in use and type of meter.

I think everyone here and friends should all be commenting on Ty's articles, videos and questions, letting him know, politely awareness is good, snake oil is not. Obviously he has to make a living, but he is missing w/ this. He would be better off investing in land and making some sanctuaries that are RF free then this foolishness or buying some good fabric and doing his own line of home shielding products that could be sold by places that sell those items.
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JDark
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Please you guys:  let Ty know what we have spent years of agony, trial and error to find out!
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Marc Martin
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> We all need to comment.  Left another under the video he sent the link of
> today, but more to the extent of just avoidance works, gadgets don't

Except that's not the universal consensus.  We see lots of people who have
found gadgets/devices/crystals that have made a huge difference in their life.  
And we also see that one thing that apparently works great for one person
doesn't work at all for another.

I do find it objectionable when there are marketing claims that such-and-such
device is guaranteed to solve your problems, when most likely it has about
a 1 in 10 chance of helping at all.  

But I certainly can't say that avoidance is the only solution, as that's not
the case for many people.  Although it certainly may be for some.

Marc
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On a side note, it was interesting seeing the side-by-side basic comparison between human brainwaves and synthetic waves, how certain ones can be sort of similar (never seen that before, oddly enough).  Does sort of explain a few things, like how when I listen to digitally recorded music on headphones it can spontaneously spur creativity because the recorded waves mimic alpha enough to jog my brain - and the effect will stop on a dime when I turn it off.  Other things too, but less easy to demonstrate cleanly like that.
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JDark
Music releases serotonin. It's good for brain function, cell function and mental and emotional function. Can ease depression.
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The placebo effect cannot be discounted.
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JDark
That is what it is w/ most of the magic cures. I guess that is OK if you know what you are getting into. Keep working on avoidance and use that to feel better on the way. But 1K could go a long way to maybe moving or shielding.  A good canopy is around $1,4000 and for me that was a big lifesaver. Not only helps the way I feel, decreases the number of TIA'a but also I can see results on the readings of my meter.

I did post a question to TY about meter tests, but you know he is not going to be able to give a straight forward answer to that.

Studies have shown a change in molecules when exposed to music. There have been over 25K studies and findings re: dangers of RF. So it really is in the science.  If someone has it to toss around and wants to spend the big bucks on a placebo then not so bad, there are many ES out there that are loaded and can do so, but should go in w/ eyes wide open.  The rest of us battle to pay the bills as we can't work anywhere and have to pay more for everything as we can't go into the wifi to shop.  Shipping and having to pay 10X more online takes a toll too.

They say ES is in the head. I don't know maybe if I could find a good mental health clinic and go for enough years, this would go away?

It was my original goal to find a low EMF place to park, but again $$ hold me back.
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JDark
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Steve:  Way back before I found TTAC. I sub'd   chrisbeatcancer if you are not already there then you will want to look into it. I was watching his recent square one series that he played for free.  Yes he has his items he pushes. Maybe a certain juicer or berkey filter, but it it more down to the original mission minus the marketing and if you are doing the research which you should you will find that the things he shows make a lot more sense. Some conflict: as one thing works great for one and not for another and if you go one way you will want to avoid the other. Ie: going dairy free bs the budwig diet. Square one was set from his POV and biased to exactly what he did and what worked for him. Found it practicle as it was someone telling me what worked for them.

This analogy:  sort of like goldenseal works and so does echanacia, but what they do not tell you when you go to buy at the store. They cancel each other out.So together they do not work.  So logically best to buy the one that you find works best on your colds.

Hope this helps you
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steve
Thanks, I'll check that site out
Steve



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Steve:  Way back before I found TTAC. I sub'd   chrisbeatcancer if you are not already there then you will want to look into it. I was watching his recent square one series that he played for free.  Yes he has his items he pushes. Maybe a certain juicer or berkey filter, but it it more down to the original mission minus the marketing and if you are doing the research which you should you will find that the things he shows make a lot more sense. Some conflict: as one thing works great for one and not for another and if you go one way you will want to avoid the other. Ie: going dairy free bs the budwig diet. Square one was set from his POV and biased to exactly what he did and what worked for him. Found it practicle as it was someone telling me what worked for them.

This analogy:  sort of like goldenseal works and so does echanacia, but what they do not tell you when you go to buy at the store. They cancel each other out.So together they do not work.  So logically best to buy the one that you find works best on your colds.

Hope this helps you


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chrisbeatcancer is how I found out about TTAC. So if you unsub, chris will still link you to the valuable stuff like the TTAC docuseries. Once I checked into a couple of Dr.s that were on TAC and whew yelp listed lots of bad experiences to avoid. Not all were that way. I just take all the resources w/ a grain of salt and filter the info, no matter where it is.  Chris just has some common sense health advice, along w/ Mercola etc...
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