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Steampunk
Hi everyone! My name is Dakota, I am questioning whether I have ES/EHS or not. I bought a GQ-380 emf meter to do some testing and readings. I just about all the symptoms listed on the main page here, fatigue all the time, body pain, insomnia, anxiety, feeling like I should just live in bed. When I hold a cell phone or tablet for just a few minutes, I get a loss of feeling and a sorta burning like sensation for some time after.

Like I said I can't quite bring myself to go one way or the other, I'm not looking for a diagnosis.... just some advice. My main obstacle is I know lightning produces EMF and I don't think anything natural would be bad for humans, so I am still unsure.

Any  comments? I have been frustrated with this a long time.
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Merializer
Yes, the symptoms you have seem to indicate very clearly that you have EHS.
i wouldn't doubt that. There are numerous studies/ proof that manmade EMF's are
bad for biological creatures including humans.
You should read some studies, and try to clean your house (EMF wise) if you haven't already,
especially the bedroom. But you probably know this ?
Unfortunately touching devices makes me very sick too, so i don't. i have build solutions.

The meter you have is interesting. i have never seen it before.
Who recommended it to you ? We use different meters.
I wonder how well it would perform compared to the meters we use,
and how reliable it is. because it does a lot for such a low price.
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Steampunk
Thank you so much for your comments, it means a lot. I've been hard pressed to talk to someone, my relatives I don't quite think understand. It's a relief to get some some validation on the symptoms. I have been trying to eliminate EMF from my living space, it's been hard, I used to have electronics based hobbies (vacuum tubes) but have found these incompatible. Also cell phone and wifi frequencies are a problem, I can't seem to get rid of them, any suggestions on a faraday cage or shelter would be appreciated, most commercial options are expensive.

The meter is from a place in Seattle WA USA, it has been said that it was comparable to the latest Tri-field meter in results, the rf spectrum analyzer is very nice to have, but I don't have anther to compare that part with.

Thanks again
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Merializer
it's not easy, a lot of us including myself are still struggling.
i can't get my place clean enough. i have wireless coming in from many angles
and i have tried shielding this without much succes so far. it is also very costly.
i probably will have to move.
There are people here that found ways to feel better.
Read the past in this forum.
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Seeker1
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Yes I have had terrible problems also and my relatives don't get it and sometimes judge me unfairly. Certainly not helpful for your mental health.

Living in flats is tricky as you can have meters and other electrical points passing through your flat due to tenants / occupiers living above and below.

What I had found is buying blankets with metal fibres worked both under the bed sheet and also under the duvet with the bed surrounded by aluminium foil (UK spelling) suspended about a foot above the sides of the bed. My headboard was also covered.

Normally the closer to the fields you are will make the symptoms worse.

By protecting the sleeping area described above with 6-7 hours sleep and wearing 3 personal protection devices in the day time, I can function reasonably normally though proximity to Smart phones at work can cause local pain.

I mentioned flats earlier and find houses generally healthier unless you start putting LED tvs in your bedroom. Most of the electrics and fields are downstairs in an house which is why houses are normally better. Watch out for fire / smoke alarms that are not battery operated. Smart meters are topical on this forum so I will just mention as a factor to check out.

I come to the conclusion that most of us that have this problem will probably also have another problem. I have IBS, I could stop this yet have found it is related to my childhood head injury and this tries to correct when I work seriously on my digestion. After losing a couple of teeth I decided to live with the IBS.

One thing to mention is water picks up the fields and so they spread all over the flat as believe it or not although we cannot see water on the surfaces it is there and resonates at the same frequency. I found this to be true back in the old days with testing magnetic fields on a tri-field meter in a flat. I was getting angina at the time and it was worse when either the washing machine or dishwasher was working. The magnetic field was travelling about 10 meters into the lounge and spreading across the whole lounge. I found out later the water pipes run through the middle of the lounge.


That was magnetic fields yet I believe today cell phone tower radiation is spreading through all the watery surfaces spreading the field all over your living space.
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Steampunk
Thanks you for that info, nice to see I'm not alone, could you describe what a "personal protection device" is and how it works, I'm sorry I'm new to all this. I've seen pendants and jewelry that claims to offer protection through some sort of ion exchange, but that sounded a bit far fetched to me at least. 



Thanks again

On Sep 8, 2018 10:27 AM, "Seeker1 [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes I have had terrible problems also and my relatives don't get it and sometimes judge me unfairly. Certainly not helpful for your mental health.

Living in flats is tricky as you can have meters and other electrical points passing through your flat due to tenants / occupiers living above and below.

What I had found is buying blankets with metal fibres worked both under the bed sheet and also under the duvet with the bed surrounded by aluminium foil (UK spelling) suspended about a foot above the sides of the bed. My headboard was also covered.

Normally the closer to the fields you are will make the symptoms worse.

By protecting the sleeping area described above with 6-7 hours sleep and wearing 3 personal protection devices in the day time, I can function reasonably normally though proximity to Smart phones at work can cause local pain.

I mentioned flats earlier and find houses generally healthier unless you start putting LED tvs in your bedroom. Most of the electrics and fields are downstairs in an house which is why houses are normally better. Watch out for fire / smoke alarms that are not battery operated. Smart meters are topical on this forum so I will just mention as a factor to check out.

I come to the conclusion that most of us that have this problem will probably also have another problem. I have IBS, I could stop this yet have found it is related to my childhood head injury and this tries to correct when I work seriously on my digestion. After losing a couple of teeth I decided to live with the IBS.

One thing to mention is water picks up the fields and so they spread all over the flat as believe it or not although we cannot see water on the surfaces it is there and resonates at the same frequency. I found this to be true back in the old days with testing magnetic fields on a tri-field meter in a flat. I was getting angina at the time and it was worse when either the washing machine or dishwasher was working. The magnetic field was travelling about 10 meters into the lounge and spreading across the whole lounge. I found out later the water pipes run through the middle of the lounge.


That was magnetic fields yet I believe today cell phone tower radiation is spreading through all the watery surfaces spreading the field all over your living space.


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Seeker1
The ones I use work on a area of the body about 3ft in diameter so I wear one around the chest and one in each pocket.

They do not mention Ion exchange yet claim to protect the body.

One claims to use energised water contained in copper or gold spiral devices another is a plastic device with gold paint eight symbol.

What I notice is both contain metals that would conduct electricity and in unusual designs. I suspect the designs are working on the harmonics of EMFs in the locality and they are following the energetic pattern from the design.

I remember a medical doctor talking about health once and said healthy bones had good energy and generally looked good too. He made a correlation between form and energy. He mentioned everything has a frequency including healthy bones. Should add he went alternative.

Should add in terms of protection it is relative and will give my brothers house as an example. He loves wi-fi and doesn't like wires. Before the devices I could stay about 30 minutes before becoming uncomfortable and with the personal protective devices this now extends to two hours. The one caveat is that I don't sit in front of the router that relays to his TV and PC.

I have used other devices, one put out a pulsed field that just irritated and another the GMAC worked though was a large device to wear.

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Marc Martin
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I think that over the past 17 years I must have tried over 50 EMF protection devices.  None of them have ever been a complete solution, but a few of them have been very helpful.  Unfortunately, the ones that I still use today are difficult to find now, as they were primarily sold decades ago (Quantum Products + Springlife Polarizers).  But they have made a big difference in what I can tolerate.

 But yes, the claims of these devices are hard for some people to believe.  Just as having electrical sensitivity is hard for some people to believe.  And a device that works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another person.

Some of the other product lines that I've seen multiple people recommend as working for them include EarthCalm, Pulsor, and Gia.  Also, several people seem like some minerals / stones, like Shunghite & Tourmaline.  Plus, there is shielding that works for some people, and others benefit from filtering the noise from their electrical wiring.

Marc
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Seeker1
I would agree Marc about no protection devices being panaceas though some are very helpful.

Where I was living last protection against direct current seemed to be needed, I was living on the third level of an old house about 70 meters from a railway station.

I found protective devices and then 9 months later these appeared to stop working, I decided to take a drive locally and found a new cell tower had been erected about 200 meters away.

I bought a different type of protector and this worked and interestingly the wasps nest in the roof seemed to vacate the local area as well.