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Miller
Has anyone tried Pulsed ElectroMagnetic Field (PEMF) Therapy mats such as the iMRS 2000, the Bemer or the Vasindux Pro?
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Jinna
No, but I use a small mini PEMF device - probably it's the first device invented (or close to the first PEMF device which was invented) called Biomedici.

It was tested for quite some time in hospitals in Germany for several conditions.

Many PEMF experts would say it does not work because the intensity is very low.

I can say that I use it every day now, for helping me to sleep deep (with a tincture that I stick to it though) and I think that if it breaks, I'll buy a another.

The first time I ever had contact with PEMFs was with my violet ray - which is not exactly a PEMF device as it does not pulse - but it emits such a nice healing high magnetic field that convinced me how much I needed that support (specially good for nerves).

I still use my violet ray to this day (it's been years I use it), and that's why I decided to buy the small biomedici (the PEMF device).

I think anything that has high magnetic fields in the sense of PEMFs or Tesla lamps (like the violet ray) have healing effects that are supportive of nerves and deep energy.

There is a device called Biocharger too, that is more inspired in the violet ray, that seems to have good press. Dr Klinghardt uses another one, I think called Tesla lamps or so. All of these devices use a similar technogy, to my understanding.
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Jinna
The problem with such PEMFs mats are that each has different specifications. I spent months researching these too.

The best tip I got was from someone who actually wanted to buy one and tried many. He said that he would feel good with some, while nothing or less good with others.

His advice: always test the mat you would like to buy BEFORE because of the size of the investment.

While some would swear by this or that type of PEMFs, due to the change of parameters (like pulsing, intensity, etc), each person reacts differently.
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Miller
Do you know what frequencies the Bio Medici provides?

I did a little research on the PEMF mats, and apparently NASA did a lot of research on the effectiveness of PEMF and the theory or process is something astronauts use to stay grounded or attain a level of magnetic resonance necessary for human survival while at the space station. The mats I listed are built with fairly large copper wires, wound into circles and contain either six or eight in a full-size mat. The idea looks pretty helpful but they are expensive.
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Jinna
Exactly, that is why the advice of my 'friend' is good: try one before investing, because no 2 people react the same with the PEMFs.

Here are the frequencies of the buttons:
http://www.ibhealing.com/blog/electromagnetic-field-therapy-device

Switch 1 =      0.7 Hz -   (1 Hz)
Switch 2 =   1.93Hz -   (2 Hz)
Switch 3 =   2.86Hz -   (3 Hz)
Switch 4 =   3.85Hz -   (4 Hz)
Switch 5 =   5.13Hz -   (5 Hz)
Switch 6 =   7.14Hz -   (7 Hz)
Switch 7 = 10.64Hz - (11 Hz)
All switches combined = 33 Hz

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You know, the good thing is that you can combine the buttons: if you click on button 1 and 2, you get 1+2, meaning 2.63 hz. You can still combine 3 buttons, like 1+2+4 for example, then you need to add to get the frequency.

it's a pretty ingenuous device, inexpensive, very mild PEMF support. I'm not sure bigger devices would be problematic to EHS people, but this small one, I doubt.

Most people would feel barely nothing. It's just with the time, using it for a while, that you notice the charging of energy in your body.
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Jinna
https://books.google.ch/books?id=Jc6UAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=ludwig+PEMF&source=bl&ots=u4tIGLT82p&sig=ACfU3U1DrMc9I1lfN4DuQlIFWmHl_a9C0A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAm5nMhqDgAhVEbFAKHY2nDqgQ6AEwCnoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=ludwig%20PEMF&f=false

If you read from page 22 from this book on PEMF, you'll see Dr Ludwig mentioned as the father of PEMFs. I think he was working in the 70s, to prove that Schumann Resonance is linked to the appearance of life.

He still supported (or had) a company in Germany, that still exists, called Medisend.

They also sell smaller PEMFs, not as small as the Biomedici. I almost bought a Medisend instead of the Biomedici. The only thing that made me buy the Biomedici, was that I had MANY more frequencies to choose than Medisend.

Many more, incomparable. As I know frequency therapy because I use infrared LEDS with frequencies (I started using only Nogier frequencies, now I can use any type of frequency) for years, I decided to go on and buy a more complete device.

The Biomedici, I think is a device that has been used in hospitals, with clinical trials, and it was quite helpful for many conditions. It's a rather old device.

I think that the time it appeared, it was more useful than today, because the environment was cleaner, and we were not stressed with electrosmog as today.

All therapies today are more limited in success due to heavy metals, chemicals and electrosmog...

Unfortunately.

I am though very happy with my Biomedici, and wondering if I buy another (I have 2, but I borrowed one to my dad)...
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Jinna
To understand how to use the Biomedici, there's a table with instructions - where to apply it, which frequencies (buttons) to turn on.

http://www.healingrainbows.com/biomedici.html

All these health conditions had been experimented in hospitals in Germany, with good results.

But as I said, this is not a cure (it could have been in the past), it's just supportive.
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Jinna
Another type of device that provides deep energy, very similar to PEMFs, but it's not exactly pulsed, are these types of devices:

http://www.teslaenergylights.com/

This is just one, there are many on the market.

Dr Klinghardt uses this one, I think...

It's a bit like charging the cells, the nerves, using also high voltage.

All these technologies start with Nikola Tesla, without doubt. He's the first father of such high voltage therapies with his Violet RAy (also called D'arsonval). If you google this, you'll find the whole history of how the Violet Ray was used in virtually all medical offices, until the FDA or the AMA forbade it.

Today, it's still sold but no one MAY claim its health uses. The last company selling it had to pay a lot of money in fines for having said that the Violet Ray helped to improve health.

Today, it's considered a quack device, but if you ever have a chance to use one, you'll understand how much energy you can gather from this simple device. It's more than the energy from food, or pretty different, very similar to PEMFs.
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Miller
Those looks like promising devices that might be of great help.

Here is a PERL/Rife/PEMF device that's has been used in a case study to eliminate pancreatic cancerous tumors. It's super expensive, but maybe it'll become more commonplace and thus cheaper.

The device:
https://www.resonantlight.com/perl-mplus/

The study:
http://file.scirp.org/Html/7-8901931_45182.htm
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Jinna
Cool, isn't it?

I know of Rife frequencies due to my disease (lyme) that made my body into EHS...

After all these years using these frequencies, I came to the conclusion they are more or less like drugs.

they do not present the full spectrum of frequencies for healing, but act more like an antibiotic would act: by attacking one single form of the pathogen (or cancer cell).

I don't know if you are familiar with pleopmorphism. It's an old theory, that is not theory anymore, that says that all pathogens change forms. A bit like a life cycle, but not exactly, because they change according to the condition of the milieu they are.

A sort of mechanism of survival , adaptation and even evolution.

 Each pathogen does that. Rife frequencies will act only on ONE form of a pathogen, not on all pleomorphic forms, so it's not as useful as people think it is.

for treating one pathogen, you need many rife frequencies. People think of bacteria as static beings, like us, that don't change forms every day. Bacteria change forms in a matter of minutes, depending on the stimulus, they lose their cell wall, they go from active to totally inactive when threatened, to hide, to cystic forms etc.

There are people using Rife for many years, decades, and always in search of new frequencies to treat their diseases.. Sometimes, it's miraculous, like the pancreatic cancer.

I think Rife frequencies are still useful though, as drugs may be useful. But more like for acute treatments.

for chronic diseases, I like stuff that support the body more as a whole entity. Like Biomats, or PEMFs, earthing, food, meditation, TCM...  I find they are more useful long term, if you see what I mean.

i also know a MD who had skin cancer and one single frequency eliminated that in a matter of days!

but as I said, I find more holistic frequencies, that support the whole body, more useful, long term.

If you don't want to invest those 7.200 dollars on this PERL M+ device, there is a very smart computer program that does amazing things (rife, PEMFs, infrared etc), programmable. Much more flexible.

It's called Spooky2. It's very popular now, because the maker did it for the minimum costs, and it's a pretty smart software, extremely flexible. You just have to keep connecting devices, with zillions of possibilities / frequencies.

Mostly, the limit is your imagination! :)

There are many supportive groups to help with installation and for exchange of ideas.

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Miller
I never heard of the Spooky2. It's definitely cheaper than the PERL M and looks like a much better deal. Like you said, at this point I'm also more into the holistic aspects of very low frequency devices and I guess that means output between 0 and 10hz? If the Spooky2 covers all of these frequencies, dependent on the device you have plugged in, it seems like one of the most diverse functioning devices on the market.
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Jinna
Yes, I think there is no better choice, concerning flexibility, quality and price.

Plus the scientists and builders working for the amazing Spooky2 project seem to be very serious guys who do not only think about profiting from sick people.

Their piece of technology is worth many thousands of dollars, I have no doubt.
Similar devices DO cost many thousands of dollars.

I heard of quite some people having it, and they are not disappointed.

The only limits are the users' imagination and what kind of equipment you can fit into the Spooky2.
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Merializer
I have one spooky 2.
But to run the stronger programs you need a minimum of 2 as far as i know.
The scan of a basic Spooky 2 takes very long, too long imo.  you have to lay still all that time,
connected to a computer,
and my finger goes asleep of the pressure of what needs to be connected to the finger,
getting cold and blue...A bit poor design imo. I don't have it for long though, still need to explore all the options.
Also not so easy to get it running, you need to watch videos etc, the manual isn't that good.
They have a more expensive Spooky now that scans faster, which is probably a better buy.
I have run the basic detox programs for many weeks, and i felt nothing i think.
Not sure if it did something.
I want to try the stronger programs to see if that does anything.