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Possible to cure ES 100%?

sake
Hi all

Just wonder if its possible to cure ES 100%? With no signs at all of ES anymore. Like talking in the mobilephone for hours, the same for computer or tablet. Yes most I have asked have it like this. Me to could sit in front of huge crt monitors for hours without any problems at all in my youth. So what are the current best route(s) to getting totally healed from this crippling ES?

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Marc Martin
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Well, we do hear from people who claim to be completely cured.  Some have done this via heavy metal detox (e.g. Andy Cutler protocol using alpha lipoic acid), and I've seen some do this through some type of neural retraining (e.g. Annie Hopper's DNRS)

I myself have tried heavy metal detox, but it's difficult for me, which I think indicates that it is a root cause for me.  I have not seriously tried neural retraining.

Marc
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sourdoe83
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I've got it under more control by using a lot of oregano and cilantro consistently but if only I knew the exact root cause of it I could go at it with more confidence. I drink rosemary tea from time to time and it helps keep my nervous system from freaking out under it's induced stress on my body, this place where I live now is very bad for me so I need it more than I ever did elsewhere. Screens are bad for me and screens powered by an HDMI input just kill me under the right conditions. But anywhere where the wireless radiation is extremely high my body gets extremely stressed. Where I came from recently in a hotel I stayed in on the top floor where they put the restaurant it was so bad I wanted to jump out of my skin. Couldn't even enjoy the food on my plate.  

Different fields I noticed do different things to me for example some radiation from a screen just makes me extremely fatigued and depressed with some digestive distress and sometimes facial irritation. Other kinds that are mostly like your wifi or cell signal pollution make me extremely hyperactive and stressed leading to a roller coaster of anxiety and depression. My issues indicate now more of a neural issue that causes extreme reactions by my body but some heavy metal treatment also helped a lot. But take me away from all of this heavy wireless radiation and within a day or two I'm just fine, no issues otherwise for my health.      
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Hawk
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Yes it is. I am on my cellphone dayli.
I was extremely sensitive.

Get them electrolytes!!!  into your body.
Also drink high pH water.
Get the body in homeostasis.
Heavy metals can also be a reason.
but how come some people with lots of metals in the body are not sensitive.?
Liver cleanse also a good thing for the buddy body.
Did i mention electrolytes??
Have a great day!

https://no.iherb.com/pr/Now-Foods-Full-Spectrum-Minerals-Caps-240-Capsules/690
And buy extra zinc supplement.
Read my other post for explanation. And why i stick to my experience/theory for curing ehs.
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Plop Plop
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Go and live in the middle of nowhere obviously. Your immune system, your fifth sense is intelligent enough to know radiation is very bad for you, so why don't you? Seriously off grid gypsies get 1/50th of the cancer rate  house dwellers. Listen to your body and just live the way you were evolved to without radiations that are man made. Failing that never sleep in electricity because your body repairs/replaces  its self at night to avoid day light radiations. It cant do it in MWs etc without maturational and identification mistakes.  There is no magic pill just  a real need for abstinence from man made radiation pollution. I did it and got better. I just cant do the electro pollution thing and don't want to. I do have a TV computer and phone so see my other posts.  I count my self lucky to be ES as it is saving me from something much worse. Seriously. Electricity just like the other mimetics of natural bio functions like alcohol and fags opioids etc. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Its addictive, thats why they have hidden the research cos they did not like what they were seeing. They have hidden all the comparative health stats too. Live naturally and have a healthy outcome. Live unnaturally and have an  unnatural outcome cos your body was not designed to do it.
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Jinna
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http://electromagnetichealth.org/electromagnetic-health-blog/mice-proteome/

Brain proteome response following whole body exposure of mice to mobile phone or wireless DECT base radiation

Adamantia F. Fragopoulou1, Athina Samara2, Marianna H. Antonelou1, Anta Xanthopoulou3, Aggeliki Papadopoulou3, Konstantinos Vougas3, Eugenia Koutsogiannopoulou2, Ema Anastasiadou2, Dimitrios J. Stravopodis1, George Th. Tsangaris3 & Lukas H. Margaritis1

1Department of Cell Biology and Biophysics, Athens University, Athens, Greece, 2Genetics and Gene Therapy Division, Center of Basic Research II, Biomedical Research Foundation of the Academy of Athens, Athens, Greece, and 3Proteomics Research Unit, Center of Basic Research II, Biomedical Research Foundation of the Academy of Athens, Athens, Greece


The objective of this study was to investigate the effects of two sources of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) on the proteome of cerebellum, hippocampus, and frontal lobe in Balb/c mice following long-term whole body irradiation.

Three equally divided groups of animals (6 animals/group) were used;

the first group was exposed to a typical mobile phone, at a SAR level range of 0.17– 0.37 W/kg for 3 h daily for 8 months,

the second group was exposed to a wireless DECT base (Digital Enhanced Cordless Telecommunications/Telephone) at a SAR level range of 0.012– 0.028 W/kg for 8 h/day also for 8 months

and the third group comprised the sham-exposed animals.

 Comparative proteomics analysis revealed that long-term irradiation from both EMF sources altered significantly (p , 0.05) the expression of 143 proteins in total (as low as 0.003 fold downregulation up to 114 fold overexpression).

 Several neural function related proteins (i.e., Glial Fibrillary Acidic Protein (GFAP), Alpha-synuclein, Glia Maturation Factor beta (GMF), and apolipoprotein E (apoE)), heat shock proteins, and cytoskeletal proteins (i.e., Neurofilaments and tropomodulin) are included in this list as well as proteins of the brain metabolism (i.e., Aspartate aminotransferase, Glutamate dehydrogenase) to nearly all brain regions studied.


Western blot analysis on selected proteins confirmed the proteomics data.

The observed protein expression changes may be related to brain plasticity alterations, indicative of oxidative stress in the nervous system or involved in apoptosis and might potentially explain human health hazards reported so far, such as headaches, sleep disturbance, fatigue, memory deficits, and brain tumor long-term induction under similar exposure conditions..
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charles
No, you cannot be cured for 100%.

But you can be cured for 90%.
That way, you are not sensitive anymore formobil phone masts, wifi, DECT, etcetera.

But you may become sensitive for very tiny fields, hardly measurable, but still effective.
I have a ventilator in the front of my new computer, wheich emits a very tiny field, I can only measure with my very sensitive EMP Spion.
I placed this glass fibre in front of it, and there were no more complaints from persons who do not feel anything of *normal*  elektrosmog.

For going outside, my wife had to wear special *protection devices*.
Klinghardt stated, that all his researched electrosensitives did ALL react positive for Lyme Disease.
So, with my NLS system, I scanned for the known stuff in the body, and made a reversed homeopathic of it.
Now she does not need any protection at all.

Remember, we have this *Killer Beam* of three different transmitters around the same 900 MHZ frequencies.
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Re: Possible to cure ES 100%?

Jinna
If a physical force damages something, like fire damaging plastic, wood... well, even if you do not admit there was damage, the fact is, damage was done (e.g.: even the piece of plastic could still be used, if not too damaged, you'll probably see it does not look brand-new anymore...).

Studies on mice proteins show that more than half of proteins they studied were PERMANENTLY damaged in the samples.

Proteins are the building blocks of bodies, of life.

No protein = no body, no enzyme, no fast enough metabolic reaction to support life, no hormones, no tissues, no organs, no digestion.... etc

Even if people do not feel damage, damage is done to proteins.

That is what that Greek university study above showed.

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Now, there are more sensitive and less sensitive people.

There are pathogens causing demyelination and maybe other causes for that, making symptoms increase exponentially. There are heavy metals in the body, making oxidant stress higher.

I guess, part of that sensitivity can decrease, as I experienced myself.

As Charles said, during lyme disease, my ES was at its highest.

After it was gone, it was still ON, but less pronounced.

My husband says he feels nothing.

But when we spend days in a more clean electrosmog environment, he DOES sleep MUCH deeper and fast.

I can clearly tell, but he still insists it has nothing to do with it.

Blood values of ES or non-ES are equally changed after introduction of smart-meters, dr. Klinghardt says.

 It affects the ones who are sensitive and the ones who aren't.


 Like the lab rat experiments in the Greek universtiy show: it's a physical damage, probably to the DNA (I suppose).
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Seven
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I agree with Jinna's comment about mice. While you may feel better, the damage is still occurring as long as the radiation is hitting the body.  It goes after our weakest links and those in our society: the old, the young, the ill, the fragile.  I suspect it doesn't affect big, strong men until they have been around a lot of it for a long period of time, and then it would wear them down, and they would experience symptoms but attribute them to something else.

Healthy, strong people have a better chance, but given enough strength and time, it would affect them again.  I would be fearful of going back into it once I got better because I believe I would be setting myself up again for symptoms, given time.
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ABC123
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After a lot of research, I came across an individual who may have just found the cure for electromagnetic radiation sickness. It's through the use of supplemental minerals.

The guy's name is Steven Magee, and if you go to his author page on Amazon you will see an update video where he discloses his experiment findings with plants and how he successfully applied those theories to his own body. Here is his page where that video can be found:

https://www.amazon.com/Steven-Magee/e/B00ITZU698/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1516424006 &sr=8-1

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Re: Possible to cure ES 100%?

charles
As I wrote earlier, I cured my wife's electrosensitivity for 100%.
I suggested it to two other persons, who flatly refused it.
(One has MCS and the other EHS.)

Many persons overhere npw claim hearing hummimg sounds, and having high blood pressure, but nobody is interested in the main cause of it, nor in the solution.

In my famous 30 points recovery plan, a number of supplements are mentioned, and also tye way of getting rid of heavy metals and other poisonous stuff.
Most electrosensitives do have too less of certian ingredients and also too much of other stuff.
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Plop Plop
Mr Steven Magee is brilliant writer on solar panel dangers,  but I still do not think that ES is an illness, but rather our immune system warning us that exposing our selves to radiations, that we have not evolved to live in, is stupid and dangerous. It is cognitive dissonance that is the problem. We are not listening/ understanding what our bodies are trying to tell us.   It would be much wiser to listen to our bodies, than do more of what is destroying the future of the planet overdosing on energies. Do you really think being in radiation millions of times higher than natural, most of it frequencies never before experienced,  is likely to me anything but dangerous for our health?
      Being alkaline is the natural state of the body IE PH 7.2.  We are acid because of induced electricity and modern junk food and a lack of earthing.  Read about earthing.  Knowing all this and reacting appropriately has not cured me and I just stay away from radiations and I am totally healthy.
      The eye is the most sensitive organ to radiation and myopia is going through the roof. Look it up. The health effects of radiation are clear if you read the research. For some reason we seem totally determined to ignore it. DUH!  Save energy and save health.

http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/myopia.htm
In fact, a recent study by the National Eye Institute (NEI) shows the prevalence of myopia grew from 25 percent of the U.S. population (ages 12 to 54) in 1971-1972 to a whopping 41.6 percent in 1999-2004.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:50 PM, charles [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
As I wrote earlier, I cured my wife's electrosensitivity for 100%.
I suggested it to two other persons, who flatly refused it.
(One has MCS and the other EHS.)

Many persons overhere npw claim hearing hummimg sounds, and having high blood pressure, but nobody is interested in the main cause of it, nor in the solution.

In my famous 30 points recovery plan, a number of supplements are mentioned, and also tye way of getting rid of heavy metals and other poisonous stuff.
Most electrosensitives do have too less of certian ingredients and also too much of other stuff.


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Marc Martin
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I wouldn't call alkalinity "the cure" for ES, however it certainly may improve it.  

I increased my alkalinity though diet & supplements, until I ended up a bit too alkaline, but my ES never went away 100%.

I do think if I ever successfully detoxed heavy metals from my system, THAT might make it go away 100%.  But I react so badly to most every recommended treatment for heavy metals, it's slow going.
 
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Plop Plop
Any thing other than being alkaline is a symptom of electricity.  Like ES.     
        If we are living earthed we could not be anything else than alkaline. Ph 7.2 IE Sleeping on the ground and not wearing shoes.  It is only since carpets, lino, wooden floors plastic  shoes and induced electricity that we have been able to carry permanent body charges and be acid. Wet earth is an extremely good conductor. In our evolutionary history most of us were in it most of the time. 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 4:15 AM, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I wouldn't call alkalinity "the cure" for ES, however it certainly may improve it.  

I increased my alkalinity though diet & supplements, until I ended up a bit too alkaline, but my ES never went away 100%.

I do think if I ever successfully detoxed heavy metals from my system, THAT might make it go away 100%.  But I react so badly to most every recommended treatment for heavy metals, it's slow going.
 



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steve
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Charles,

You have a way of curing MCS? I have MCS and ES both, along with fibromyalgia
Steve
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ABC123
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charles wrote
As I wrote earlier, I cured my wife's electrosensitivity for 100%.
I suggested it to two other persons, who flatly refused it.
(One has MCS and the other EHS.)

Many persons overhere npw claim hearing hummimg sounds, and having high blood pressure, but nobody is interested in the main cause of it, nor in the solution.

In my famous 30 points recovery plan, a number of supplements are mentioned, and also tye way of getting rid of heavy metals and other poisonous stuff.
Most electrosensitives do have too less of certian ingredients and also too much of other stuff.

Where can I find your 30 point plan?
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charles
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Plop Plop
Has anyone tried Gabapentin?Any joy?  It certainly works for me.  Have you found any other meds useful?  Folic acid? Zyban? Zoloft?
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steve
I was considering Gabapentin as I am depressed and anxious.
How has it helped you and at what dosage? Any side effects?
I usually don't like taking drugs but I'm getting desperate 
Steve



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Has anyone tried Gabapentin?Any joy?  It certainly works for me.  Have you found any other meds useful?  Folic acid? Zyban? Zoloft?


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Plop Plop
Over the decades I have tried most drugs offered to me. None have been as good a Gabapentin but it would depend on your doctor.  After a HUGE wait I finally saw a specialist Professor Pinchin who recomended the pain clinic Gabapentin and tramadol.  The GP gave me none of these. I bought Gabapentin on the internet. It was brill and my life went back on track.  In the end I got it from my GP after a gefluffle but what a gefluffle. Talk you your doctor.  I had CFS/ FM though as well as EHS but did not know what EHS was then. 

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:12 PM, steve [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was considering Gabapentin as I am depressed and anxious.
How has it helped you and at what dosage? Any side effects?
I usually don't like taking drugs but I'm getting desperate 
Steve



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Has anyone tried Gabapentin?Any joy?  It certainly works for me.  Have you found any other meds useful?  Folic acid? Zyban? Zoloft?


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