In the 1990s SAD Seasonally Affective Disorder was all the rage. It seems to have died a slow death now. I have long suspected that many people who thought they had SAD were in fact ES. The SAD people were told to sit close in front of fluorescent light boxes. (They might be all dead now). I don't know. I certainly find the long dark winter days hard to handle. I take lots of vitamin D3 and long for springtime to return. Every evening as it gets dark I feel my self being horribly electrified as every one turns there devices on.
This is an article about young Swedes, in depression.
If you read this article, you'll see there is huge problem...
" Between 1991 and 2014, the sales of antidepressants increased by 13,690 percent for girls aged 15 to 19, while the increase for boys was 6,710 percent."
I don't know if it were you who posted how good Sweden is (?). I lived there for 2 months only, but hubby lived for 6 months, and he had worked with Swedes for about 6 years.
It's a myth that they are happier, life there is better, etc. It's far from that...
I know a psychiatric medical doctor, working in Switzerland. She is from Austria.
She said that just around Zurich, there are 5 psychiatric HOSPITALS!!
It's not clinics, private surgeries, nope: psychiatric HOSPITALS.
The number of people in burnout is huge, here.
It's like a fashion now: everyone may go burnout at any moment, and this is seen now as 'normal'.
When I arrived here about 15 years ago, no one was talking about that.
If people knew that great part of what they feel has to do with:....
- chronic pathogens and their neurotoxins affecting their brains, nerves and hormones
- toxins, heavy metals, pesticides, additives, chemicals in their clothes, house, office, cars... affecting everything (liver, kidneys, gut, digestion, sleep, hormones...)
- electrosmog (idem as above)
- bad eating habits (not providing healing nutrients to cope with stress coming from 3 items above)
.... instead of thinking that 100% of that depression / burnout comes from life stress, well, things would be different, I suppose?
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As someone who actually used to have severe SAD from lack of vitamin D and B12 I can say that it seems loosely connected itself. Worse when I'm indoors so much and the cold is stressing my body out more in a nutshell. SAD is no joke, turns you into an unhealthy lump of misery you even drag around into the warmer seasons. That's why it's important to stay connected to nature all year round and stay healthy even if your trapped indoors often by snow or brutal cold. I notice it's just worse in the winter because I'm getting very little natural sun on my bare skin and I'm just going from dirty interior to dirty interior often with no extended periods of freedom outdoors like in spring or summer when I'm free to tend to whatever hobbies I wish whenever if I'm not working and I have more space to breathe in general. I'm sure a lot of it though is because the comforts of nature when you feel that freedom in it and you love how doing what you do out there makes you feel it puts the pain of ES in the back of your mind. You have bigger things than pain to focus on, life is more than the agony it throws at you that this group especially has to deal with. Always keep that in mind, saves my life.
And to the post above yes that is what almost all of the depression epidemic is worldwide. A sick environment creates sicker people. The anxiety problem is mainly that + plus a toxic society built on cruelty. You'll never know when the stress of society the way things are now will break you. You're surrounded by misery when your in say a workplace or in the city, everything reminds you of how your never enough to the point where it's as if feeling positivity is a crime, and many people are cruel and prone to snapping creating constant background tension. Stand out too much and it'll try to hammer you down. It's scary out there and you bet that those negative people are gonna band together to spread the hate more in the world to perpetuate it. Instead of improving anything, the focus is on it's witch hunts and creating more pain and misery. Throw in that EM pollution and terrible food that brings down the body and mind and you just created a monster.
I wonder if a lot of people who thought they had SAD really had EHS. I remember huge meetings of thousands of Zombie people in London and wonder what happened to them. I certainly got it wrong but then there was no EHS that I had ever heard of. I did decide that any time out doors was better than a lightbox and a dog probably, no definitely saved my life. Returning to London always hit me like a sledge hammer.
The anti depressants they give out must have made the Big Pharma rich. Has any one found meds that help? I was on Amphebutone for decades. It did work and cover the symptoms. Lovely stuff. I had to get it privately though.
Vitamin D3 is a total must for any one with EHS or MS according to research. At least 5000 units every day. It is not actually a vitamin but apparently a hormone. Its the ON switch.
A diet of raw food and full of fruits like berries is like Got sent to me.
I used to take Vit D3 for MORE than 10 years, starting in October, until end of February.
It did help me healthwise.
Now I find that fruits, honey, frozen fruits juice, banana, pure nutrition with fresh leaves actually makes me feel happier.
I think it's like getting sunlight through food: actually, fruits like banana, coconuts, grapes, oranges (any kind), avocados, pomegranates etc, they all need sunlight to grow and thrive, and that is why I'm trying to eat less grains, more live foods instead.
Fruits have a very calming effect for me. It seems the glucose in fruits (natural glucose) calms the brain, because it is food for the brain.
the artificial sugar has an OPPOSITE effect: it gives me a calm feeling for a few minutes, then anxiety comes, tension, aggressiveness....
Just try fruit juices 2x a day (even with frozen mangos, or blueberries), and you already feel the effect.
I notice the mood in my house changes the more fruits and fresh veggies we eat.
SPECIALLY in winter months, where we all lack sunlight.
Add coconut juice to your juice, it gets very yummy, + you get electrolytes (to help with ES!).
I also add cold teas in place of water to my juice, and you feel like it is doing actually something to your brain.
Rosemary, thyme, lemon balm, olive leaves, rose hips, peppermint, I keep shifting teas daily to get more nutrition, and I think that after a while, I feel I'm getting 'paid' back in good mood.
I catch myself singing for no reason.
It's better than drugs!!!
I know what you guys mean by big cities.
Paris is such a place, you wonder how can people say they love Paris.
I do too, as a tourist!! But I find it hard to believe people love to LIVE in it.
I watched Matrix again, these days. It all makes me think about Matrix.
Most people live in ignorance, take life as it is for granted, accept it.
I got a new device that sends homeopathic remedies against E sens.
I can't describe the feeling of FREEDOM that invaded me this week (since I started wearing the device).
I did not know that I lived in fear: I knew ES symptoms could come any time, depending on the exposure of a public place, and I had always been ready to flee (if I could) to any other place.
Only now I know that before, I had had no freedom to be where I wanted, when I wanted.
I now know that such radiation fear made me feel so vulnerable, afraid, hiding, like an illegal refugee.
It's the first time in years I feel freedom of movement.
Even the car, that made me ill, only affected me 10% of what it used to affect.
Only now I feel I can relax a bit, and not be constantly checking for wifis, cell towers, people with mobile phones beside me - and prepare to leave the place at any time.
Its a scary world. Use of antidepressants has doubled again in the last 10 years in the UK. Modern food has typically 25% of the nutritional value of food 50 years ago. Most is rancid with pesticides. 4 times the double contamination level of 10 years ago. 90% of foods we eat now have been genetically modified using radiations. ( they will never say what sort so I suspect NI.)
Personally I take multi vits all the time as modern fresh foods do not provide this because of exhausted soil and over cropping. D3 is recommended for all with ES all the time. Personally I avoid fresh fruit and vegetables because the law requires crops are not picked within their pesticide treatments elimination half life. The illumination half life is measured on the equator under ideal conditions. 30 days on the equator can equate to a year in a northern climate. View what PAN say. ( pesticide action network). The UK Government has just "requested" that farmers do not crop within 3 days of spraying. Farmers are know for their spraying care. Mine only sprays next to me when the wind is blowing into my garden. ES and pesticide exposure share a common symptomology relating to achetylcholine. The EU ordered the UK Government to compensate victims but they never paid a penny and 90% have died despite election promises.
Personally I never eat any thing fresh. I leave my rice for as many months as possible. Bread is typically soaked in pesticide. Ideally I would make my own with old flour. I eat a lot of food out of tins as it has had time for the pesticide to decay. Organic only means it uses Nicotinic based pesticides which are the worst for ES.
I want to live naturally but how? Its not easy being green. We are polluting the planet to hell!
As for tins, BPA from resins, and aluminum contamination:
As for long stored grains, storage mold may be a big problem:
Mold mycotoxins can be very poisonous and causes psychotic problems, lung and breathing problems, immune system shut down, strong brain fog, etc
I also used to take vitamins, etc. I still do, on and off. Like Vit D3 or magnesium.
But I tell you, they are far from giving me the same effect as fresh or frozen fruits / veggies do.
I buy about 90% organic, when I can. For more than a decade, as a choice.
The 10% that I buy, is because I either do not find them, or because I know that they use less pesticides (avocados, for example).
I live in the countryside, in an area that produces apples, pears and vines.
I know how much they spray, so no way I spray my own garden with anything.
The grapes I eat, I eat practically unwashed, from my own vine. Apples too, when I could eat (before allergies).
Now allergies are going backwards, with the increase of raw foods. I can eat apples (after years not being able), and today, for the first time in MANY YEARS, I could eat half a kiwi, without having my mouth burnt.
I used to use ghee butter from a can, but after the BPA problem, I now do not buy canned anything anymore.
As for lack of sunlight, you are right.
That is why I do buy organic bananas, mangos, pomegranates from far. Dates from far.
This year, I tried to grow some figs, not enough sun, bad weather. I got not a single one....
So I buy them dry from far. All organic.
It might be an ecologic problem, to import so many fruits.
But if we have to import vitamins and minerals to substitute for the fresh nutrients, what difference does it make?
People usually talk about the ecologic problem of importing fruits and veggies, but say nothing about all clothes, shoes, cosmetics, cell phones, batteries, remedies / herbs / supplements...
The world is messed ALSO because of globalization, who exports their sh... chemicals and mass production techniques to food production.
Our health then suffers because of that globalization.
so I feel I have no choice than use that globalization to my favor, to try to keep alive and healthy, even though if it goes through importing fruits and veggies from hotter countries.
As I'm fortunate to be able to find most of the products organic, it's also a sign for society: each penny I spent goes for a cleaner food production technique, and not to support mass production of dead and poisonous food.
it's a sort of a political way of engaging for a better and cleaner food production, that we are all starving for.
Remeron worked great for me when I first took it 10 years ago due to severe depression and anxiety.
It helped with social anxiety as well and calmed my MCS somewhat and my ES.
Unfortunately I had to taper down as it started affecting my IBS and now I'm taking a very small dose and to be honest it does nothing now.
I tried increasing to my initial dose as I have bad anxiety after leaving my job but it didn't work anymore.
I'm trying some natural things and if they don't work I may try gabapentin, but I would rather not take another drug.
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I still think that weighing the risk of eating something that has been sprayed with deadly poison recently especially organic OR risking a can, I prefer the unpesticided can. Assuming the can has been stored long enough for the elimination half life to have been effected by several factors. I am perfectly well now for the first time except for a tiny bit of IB. Farmers do not get sued for selling poisoned food ever. I am sure they sell it. WHY? See the pesticide action network figures.
Ach is a primary component of ES and preferring "organic" without understanding the science because of marketing propaganda seems none too wise to me. Elevated Ach is a symptom of all these modern diseases and may well be the cause. It is induced by NI radiation and pesticide especially organic. If we lived as we were designed exposed to neither we would be much healthier.
Great you can find canned food that has not been sprayed.
Here in Switzerland / Germany, clients who buy unsprayed food prefer to buy them out of cans, or in the worst case, in GLASSES.
We do find non-sprayed food in cans, sparsely, but I don't think they are really trend here...
Consumers buying canned food usually don't mind if food is sprayed or not, that's what I mean.
At least, here where I live.
Read about BPA, because if you eat a lot of canned foods, you may be taking larger doses of BPA, that has been banned for baby products ONLY.
BPA is used in the Epoxy of cans - you can see that inside the tin, there is a bright surface of plastic (epoxy) - so in fact, your canned food is stored in plastics, not in direct contact with the tin.
If the food you eat contains anything that is oily, you'll get more exposure to the food (as plastics dissolve better in oils).
What is the difference in buying unsprayed food in cans and in natural form for you?
don't take me badly, I just don't get your logic.
The only reason governments may suggest farmers to wait a few days after spraying to sell their products is because chemicals will evaporate a bit, or will be partially washed with rain, or possibly a bit degraded by UV light.
In no way, chemicals will totally disappear.
But all these chemicals are anyway INSIDE the fruits, plants, as they are sprayed since buds, and the soils are full of chemicals, due to long term exposure.
The plants suck those chemicals through roots, and we eat those fruits and veggies. So do animals we eat.
If you buy canned food and wait 6 months or more to eat, the pesticides or chemicals will not magically disappear (where will they go, if they are trapped inside the plastics + tin)?
I don't get your point.
What you will get, is MORE BPA inside your food, for sure.
And in flours or grains that are packed with paper bags, waiting could be some good point - like some pesticides could evaporate in the storage room or your closets - but at the same time, you'll certainly get a higher amount of mold in grains.
I don't know how familiar you are with mold illnesses - if you know the publications of Dr Shoemaker - well, I would not play lightly with mold.
A lot of psychotic, depression, anxiety can come through mold exposure - specially mold spores: and it's not only in the environment, but also in the food.
Half-life is the time it takes for a pesticide to decay by half. As time passes the pesticide will stop being poisonous. If you keep keep the cans long enough the half-life (typically 30 days) will have been exceeded by many factors. I don't think there is any choice as to whether I buy sprayed food. I grew up and lived on on a farm so don't think farmers are that professional when it comes to spraying. If they have any sense they get an idiot to do it for them. Organic sprays are the worst. Organic is sprayed as much as non organic, its just green washing for townies that says it is not. For EHS its worse as it only includes nicotenic poisons.
You say "The only reason governments may suggest farmers to wait a few days after spraying to sell their products is because chemicals will evaporate a bit, or will be partially washed with rain, or possibly a bit degraded by UV light. " You have clearly missed my point here as well. The law says no crop can be harvested within the half life of it being sprayed. The government asked farmers not to crop within 3 days. This means that the are not enforcing this law and are effectively giving a green light to poisoning vulnerable people. DUH!
You say "the pesticides or chemicals will not magically disappear (where will they go, if they are trapped inside the plastics + tin)".
You need to read up on what half life is. What you are describing is nerve gas. The difference between pesticide and nerve gas is the fact that it does break down over a set time IE 30 days or it does not get a license. For a safety factor it is wise to exceed this by several factors. Also most farmers know their crop will be canned in hours of harvest so don't need to keep it looking good for an extended period on shelves. So they don't need to spray to sell it. saving money so they do do it. Nutritional value in cans is much better than "fresh" or freezing also. Check out the independent research. Don't eat acid things from old cans is true like tomatoes.
Rice should always be stored for as long as possible before eating.
You say "A lot of psychotic, depression, anxiety can come through mold exposure - specially mold spores: and it's not only in the environment, but also in the food. " well I don't agree. We are survivors of billions of years of eating any shite we could get our hands on. The thing we have not evolved to survive is man made pesticide poisons in an irradiated environment which disrupts the basic functioning of our electrically based immune system. Get out of radiation then your immune system will work again.
thanks for the explanation, Plop.
but I have still questions: 3 days waiting on shelf or tree will not make DDT or glyphosate disappear.
Lots of studies on shelf products (meaning pasta, for example) show high levels of glyphosate.
They certainly stayed in shelf for weeks or months.
And even DDT can still be found in the earth of old polluted sites. Still active, still doing harm.
Even if banned for 40 years.
Just see all the heavy metals, that can be still found in food, frozen food like fish, that stay months inside the freezers.
I wish they disappeared, but they don't.
Birds are still being killed by DDT in the US, even if it is not used anymore for the last 40 years.
As for glyphosate, the half life can be days, weeks, months or years.
It is still used all over the world, and harming farmers here in Germany, in India, in Southeast Asia.
(about a year of half life for glyphosate in water)
And there is not only half life, the actual presence of chemicals.
There is the homeopathic presence of chemicals.
Have you read the reports on Glyphosate done by Monsanto? They leaked to the public some time ago.
Very TINY amounts of glyphosate are sometimes MORE cancerigenous than HIGHER amounts.
Researchers cannot understand that well, but it's fact.
Look at studies on BPA to understand the problem: very tiny amounts are sometimes causing huge hormonal imbalances in wild life.
this has been proved almost 30 years ago. It's known science today, accepted by most. I lived with a phD researcher who was studying that back in 1994!!
The amount is not what makes the poison, always.
Ref "but I have still questions: 3 days waiting on shelf or tree will not make DDT or glyphosate disappear.
Lots of studies on shelf products (meaning pasta, for example) show high levels of glyphosate.
They certainly stayed in shelf for weeks or months."
That is why I buy tins and keep them as long as possible before eating them. Pesticide as opposed to nerve gas is defined by its inherent instability. If you have to eat food treated with pesticide then eat it as old as possible. I would love to know if a microwave can break down pesticides?
"The amount is not what makes the poison, always" agreed, but any thing in excess becomes poisonous by definition.
I had balanced spectrum lights when I was a teenager, but I never noticed much difference. Fortunately they weren't fluorescents. You can still buy incandescent and halogen SAD lights in the US, but I think they're illegal in the EU.
FWIW, the only lights I've noticed any benefit from in the winter are metal halide, and they don't play nice with ES. (The color is REALLY good, though.) The fields they create might be easier to block than fluorescents, and they're harder to break.
It's funny you say 'mold has been with us forever', which is true, Plop.
But wheat has been with us for a long time, and many people are now allergic to it.
I guess, same way as some people are E-Sensitive while others aren't (they do not feel sick), well, same again with gluten and mold.
Mold illness is very real, the same way as gluten allergy is real, and ES is real, and chronic lyme is real.
Mold illness patients are also battling for recognition, the same way as ES patients are, chronic lyme sufferers are.
thanks for posting that MCS and ES is accepted by WHO as 'real' conditions.
Most MCS patients will suffer too from mold allergy / sensitivity.
If I eat 'dead' food (like only from tins, only cooked, only non-fresh foods), I fall ill in about 2 weeks.
Before, my tolerance was about 3, 4 days on a row.
Now I think my health stabilized, so I can eat non-fresh food for about 2 weeks, but then a sure collapse comes.
I usually develop chronic fatigue, chronic infections, brain fog, inflammation, etc if I eat non-fresh food.
I become like a rug, I can't even walk around any more, as I need to sleep most of the day.
My body thrives on fresh juices, fresh veggies, fresh fruit, lettuce, carrots, celery, cucumber, beet root, radish, sprouts with some lightly cooked veggies in between (such as squash, spinach, different potatoes...).
I feel my battery running down after day 3 when I do not cook home, or if I skip eating raw things.
I know my life quality depends on eating this way, as I've tried so many diets, and that is certainly what fits my body.
I also test stuff energetically, for more than a decade, and avoid all stuff that test 'bad'.
That has been the only way I found to navigate through food.
The feeling I get with my wild blueberry juice + berries or cherry + apple or pear or watermelon + honey + lemon balm tea is gorgeous. Truly calming the ANS.
I see the mood improving in the whole house, if I keep on making such fresh juices and salads.
Or avocado + persimmon / or apple / pear / grapes / banana + 1 lemon + honey is again, calming.
Some people, I suppose, can thrive on can foods.
Like some do not touch a piece of vegetables and still live (i know a guy like that, and he looks healthy).
It does not fit my body...
it must be good to be able to go shopping for un pesticided food. I can hardly travel anywhere because all the roads are so microwaved. Forgetting that intolerance my health has never been better than since I started to follow my "old foods only as much as possible regime". I don't even know where you could find untreated foods in France. France is the largest consumer of pesticides per hectare in the world and 2/3 of what they use is illegal.
If you read " Explaining Unexplained Illnesses" by Martin Pall, you will see the connections with pesticides. All a bit scary. For my money SAD was just EHS before wifi and computers and only EMFs and the seasonal effect of being indoors more in winter so more exposed.
Sorry you cannot move well around...
It feels like home-prison, I somehow know what it is, as when I fall totally ill, I become totally home bound.
It's been 9 years almost, that that does not happen anymore, despite increase in EMR all over.
But while I'm out, I feel like I'm not movement-free, as when the bad ES feeling comes, I have to get away, keep moving.
I know somehow this radiation problem is cumulative. The more we get sensitized, a bit like allergies, the more we go down.... It's such a sad situation.
We watch everything that goes on in France here. We know the problem there, with chemicals, with the slavery system of farmers, criminal milking industry like Lactalis killing farmers livelihood...
And the hypocrisy. France central government has too much power, too centralized compared to Switzerland (where the situation is not flowers either....).
Now this forced vaccination there with Macron smells like rotten.
You can bet that there must be a direct link between ES and vaccines too, because they cause extreme inflammation in many cases (if they do not kill some babies with SIDS). And all have heavy metals, either aluminum or thymerosol (still inside, but in smaller amounts, they do not need to mention it).
I've been watching a whole series of documentaries this week, many hours of interview with different health specialists, researchers, injured families, Gardasil controversy, etc etc. If it causes so much damage, you can be sure ES is one of the side effects of multiple EXCESSIVE vaccinations at early age.
The doses of aluminum they are injecting in newly born babies is criminal, and goes against the maximum dose recommended in the US, at least. They add Polysorbate 80 to baby's vaccines, a solvent used in cancer chemio treatments (and in industrial products) for the sole purpose that it crosses the blood-brain-barrier. The most important protection of your brain is this BBBarrier.
Polysorbate 80 is used in chemio therapy SO THAT chemio crosses the BBB!!
What is Polysorbate doing in baby's vaccines?? It binds to ALUMINUM that is present in high amounts, binds to viruses (from vaccines), and crosses baby brains to cause ....: brain inflammation!!
Before was mercury in high amounts, now it's aluminum in high amounts + mercury in smaller amounts (it's still there, but in tiny amounts, no need to mention in labels).
If the baby is screaming, feverish, in total pain for 24 hours non stop after multiple vaccines taken in one day, it's not a coincidence.
My daughter developed MULTIPLE food allergies after being so much vaccinated. Whole body covered in blisters, eczema, watery inflammation.
She got 25 shots in less than 2 years of life.
She became extremely sensitive to everything, most food, and also ES. She's like an antenna for wifis. And we never had any wifi games, tablets, smart phones...
And now Macron is forcing the whole population to get those HEXAVACCINES since birth???? My daughter was getting 5 shots in one day, and it caused her harm that she'll carry her life long: multiple food allergies, easily getting infections, always more severe in her case, then ES problem that I feel is also a collateral damage of vaccines.
I mean, what good does it do to inject babies with aluminum and mercury, both hazardous heavy metals?
Plus formaldehyde, monkey brain cells, chicken embryo cells, liver, kidney from cows, aborted fetus tissues?
have you ever heard of meat allergy? I never have heard that before, but unfortunately, even MEAT is causing allergies to many many people - some can barely eat anything without getting inflammation etc. And no one believes them.
They - like us ES sufferers - are invisible. Like vaccine damaged kids - the fault are parents.
I was hoping the glyphosate would be banned in Europe, but no, no, no!!! It's here to stay more 5 years, right?
Even if banned, we wonder how long will glyphosate stays in soil. When you read the studies above, its half-life can span years.
Once I counted how many shops I have to do to find eatable reasonably-clean fresh food.
At least 9 shops a week, every single week, I have to choose products one by one.
fortunately, I live close to Germany, and the south of Germany is considered 'rich'. There are small markets, street markets, where I get most of the fresh stuff. Or even bigger supermarkets are having more and more 'cleaner' alternatives.
Because many people buy these organic products, the price has fallen too.
I really think twice before spending any euro on any food: anything you buy is a signal for the industry.
That is why I try to do my civil obligation: no single cent to contaminated potatoes, 'radioactive' apples and pears, ready made products full of additives.
Every single cent we spend on pesticide-food, is a green sign to the industry to continue producing the sh... they do.
Every single cent we spent on so-to-say 'greener' food is a green sign that we want to eat cleaner.
I see a clear movement here in my area.
One part of the population is clearly getting tired of being poisoned.
Criminal companies like Lactalis, or Nestle, no way: I also REFUSE to buy anything from them.
Not even cat food will come from such companies.
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