One of the big problems I feel is that in the minds of engineers one of the visions that they have this following…
they feel at one point it seems like the biological impacts of electromagnetic fields as we are using them become too substantial…
...all we’ll have to do is turn this switch off and modify our methods at this point in time.
What they don’t understand about biology is that you could irreversibly damage the living systems and I am not only talking about only humans, I’m talking about all living systems.
Turning off or changing the techniques that they use at a certain point in time might not solve the problem that was created.
It has to do in fact with 13 genes that are in the mitochondria.
The reason they are there is because of the selection barrier.
In other words, 99.4% of all of our general genetic code in the mitochondria has already migrated into the nucleus.
And so the things that remain behind in the mitochondria are all related to oxidative phosphoralation, the production of ATP using oxygen.
But the reason why these 13 genes have remain behind are functional.
In other words, it’s because it works better that way.
Yes, this management of ATP in the cell is managed by adenosine monophosphate protein kinase (AMPK) and this is an enzyme that has been formed and perfected over the last two billion years.
So it’s the manager of energy in the cell, when you disregulate randomly such an enzyme, you are really playing with the most basic mechanism of living systems and this is extremely dangerous in my opinion, ...
...I think this is something that we should avoid and what engineers want to hide this that the only way that we can achieve what we are doing but the truth is that, we could distribute the electricity as DC,…,
... we could use optical fiber which is faster than wireless and of course it’s all of the choice of methods and they used the wrong methods simply because at the moment when they made these choices, they thought you could sell stuff quickly and rapidly.
When you use electromagnetic fields and you disregulate mitochondria, you weaken this selection barrier and what will happen is that you increase raising the chances that these functions will be repatriated into the nucleus and once they are gone from mitochondria, then they won’t go back.
It’s a one way street and we know from mito-nuclear coordination in the natural system that if you try to reverse the tendencies like that was set in motion by changing back the environment it only gets worse.
In other words what engineers don’t understand is that what are they doing could be an irreversible catastrophe to the biota as a whole.
I know the mitochondria has its own genes which are different than cells' genes.
Both have nucleous, as separate entities who joined together sometime during the evolution.
The mitochondria is what produces most of the cells's energy through ATP.
Without mitochondria, there is no multicellular life possible, not to the extent we see (huge multicellular beings such as what we are, mammals are, all big multicellular life forms).
If the mitochondria starts to fail due to a break up of important enzymes used to produce energy, the cell will get ill (all diseases come from LACK OF ENERGY at first), and then die.
Dr. Klinghardt uses to say that microbes, parasites, less developped beings (not in the bad sense, just in biologic evolutionary terms) will probably be the main (or only) survivors of this humankind experiment we're doing in a planetary scale.
It's not only the electrosmog, but all toxins we are putting, are damaging life.
What will happen and is happening, is a full blown disintegration of complex forms of lives to smaller, simpler forms of life. Back to basics, so to say.
You know, when a plant dies, an animal dies, bacteria, insect, fungi come and make their bodies into small particles, so that other types of life can profit from their nutrients.
Chronic infections (that we see growing exponentially, chronic candida, chronic viruses, chronic fatigue is always linked to chronic infections, MS, brain diseases that look like cheese due to microbes eating up brain matter, etc etc) are part of the problem, to my understanding.
Without mitochondria, no evolved life is possible (in the sense of being multicellular).
It's the extra addiction of ATP energy in the cells provided by a fortunate symbiosis of 2 cells - one that could produce a lot of energy, but could not do other things well + another that could do other things well, but had not enough energy - that complex life forms were able to appear in the past.
We, multicellular beings, owe EVERYTHING to this fortunate meeting between mitochondria-type of cell with a life cell.
Break that symbiosis by breaking important enzymes that allow energy production = there is permanent damage to multicellular life.
That is what I think I can understand by this interview...
Plop Plop, you do realize that this group wasn't created so you could just post random web links? There is a purpose to this group, and it is to report on things that help (and don't help) improve ones ES. And some of your posts don't seem to have anything to do with that, which must be frustrating for people who can barely tolerate using their computer/phone/tablet and are looking for things that might help them.
Electron Transport Chain seems to me very relevant. It shows how our body works electrically with osmotic filters which are probably going to get disrupted but shorting voltage radiations. I would of thought it inspired respect and was a bit of fun. Being that most of the people on the site have not studied biology or medicine its fun introduction to the immensely complex bio-electric system that runs 24-7 that most people have next to no knowledge off. If they did they would probably have more respect than to go into radiations. Most doctors use very expensive low radiation equipment. It is ignorance that is the biggest risk.
Can you give me an example of what I have posted that is not relevant? Personally I would have thought that the ridiculously stupid non science based magic cures were a far greater waste of peoples time. But then I don't judge. I think that you have a point and will let people search for hours on line to find the things that I have thought might interest some one. May be they should do it the hard way too. I was trying to make it easier.
ATP is extremely relevant and visually explained very well and in a fun way. No need to slog through text books for days to catch up. Personally I think a lot of your previous thread was in danger of becoming over dramatic. We are not going to to extinguish higher life itself with micro waves. We will do a lot of damage to human rights of individuals if polluters can continue to pollute without being held to account under the law. Clearly we are in a stinkingly corrupt time as this is happening now. Nothing else matters but to correct this violation of this moral law. There is a lot of scaremongering and what we need is an objective look at the facts about EHS. It is irrational fears that that allowed society to develop to where we are now with radiations. They were given exemption from law to beat the commies. This law must be repealed.
Im pretty upset that all the MWs are being pulled by the Earths magnet through the North Pole and blowing a hole into space. But I wont waste you time with it as that wont help the cause of getting rid of MWs. Better to read of salt cures that will make you more conductive and increase your radiation damage.
ATP seems very relevant and the key to progressing the cause against MWs. ATP/ FATIGUE effects every one exposed to MWs. The recession in 29 and 08 both followed the mass introduction of new radiations. People now perform at 40% of their 1840 performance values. This is well documented by the Eugenics Society. The big problem is that there is a Neo Nazi, Neo Con mentality that is directing the economy in a very stupid direction for every one because they are ignorant and rich and powerful. It is end of empire thinking. We EHS are the victims of this and should demand our human rights on behalf of every one.
This group was never intended to be a place for everyone to share links of EMF-related articles. I'm sure that such groups exist, but this isn't one of them. The group's description should be pretty self-explanatory. It's a group for people suffering from electrical hypersensitivity, sharing what does and doesn't work for them. If you are interested in posting things other than that, then you should find the appropriate place to do that (e.g., a blog, another group, etc.)
I think people saying scary things without quoting sources is not right and wont help any one.
IT IS STANDARD PRACTICE TO QUOTE SOURCES AND BIBLIOGRAPHY. Learning is based on standing on other peoples shoulders. Sharing knowledge. That is what I am trying to do. People can judge its relevance for them selves. I would appreciate it if it looked like you had read what I said before judging it. That video is brill but then I dont think you are academically qualified to judge. It is a perfect illustration of what we were talking about. Are you prejudice against French rap?
I have posted nothing that is not furthering the knowledge base of EHS cures on the basis of sound science ( unlike some).
May be if every one told their friends that all the unearthed microwaves are traveling magnetically to the North Pole and melting the ice it would make them think twice. Did you read this article? GOOD FOR EHS.
Understanding how rf/microwave absorbers work without having to search for weeks through the internet I would think was a positive aid to EHS. Brilliant site! Have you looked at it? I have certainly learned from it. GOOD FOR EHS
Does the human body block or absorb RF energy is very relevant if it clarifies what is making people ill. It seems MANY on your site do not appear to know. GOOD FOR EHS
Sunscreen and stopping EHS? Our skin is natures way of stopping radaitions. Why is it not working? Very relevant. If you want EHSs to get better. Possibly a cure. GOOD FOR EHS
Flying with EHS? Possible now? Crucially important if you need to escape at some point. GOOD FOR EHS
For those that can barely tolerate using their computer/phone/tablet and are looking for things that might help them they would not have the time to search the internet to find these useful things. As I have described before how to build, I have a near ZERO rads computer so CAN surf. I for one appreciate when people leave interesting links to relevant and helpful stuff.
Tell me what I have said that is not helpful and I will bear it in mind.
Understanding a problem is solving a problem ===sharing what does and doesn't work.