I just heard recently that the system fiber optics is going to support 5G in some way (5G signals will be enhanced, or something similar), in Sweden they are tearing down the phone landlines since quite some years now, so people have to have fiber if they want cable internet, what are the options, in general?
Is internet via satellite, (and with a cable in the house), an option for ES people, Any other options, ideas? Thanks.
Well, there are a lot of ways that one might be able to get internet into your house, and probably there is always going to be someone that will react badly to any of the available options. Even supposedly "safe" options, like all-wired or fiber optics can cause people terrible reactions.
I don't see too many people talking about satellite internet, but maybe that's just because it's not the most popular of options. Certainly if you have ES, you may want to put the dish antenna far from where you spend your time, and not make use of any wireless transmissions on your property.
But some things must be much worse than others, or? Some sort of radiations, electricity, waves, frequencies, intensities are in a way much worse that other, even if we react differently (or do not realise we react), there must be some less harmful solutions than others.
A smartmeter next to me, absolutely not, but sending some sms from an old school mobile, that I can manage, just an example.
What I tried to figure out, was: in an area without landlines (and not in/near city/town), what could be the solutions to get internet via cable (not wifi):
Would fiber optics really be safe? I saw in video that 5G signals can be "carried" and enhanced by fiber optic cables. Is this true or not?
I am not a fan of satellite, but was just trying to figure out, ask around. I wish I could stick to land lines, but in more an more places, specially remote ones, they do not care to repair/rebuild them. Its normal that after storms/heavy rains/wind, that they brake, but I have heard/experienced in Italy and in France that they are getting more and more reluctant to keep the landlines.
I am worried for the future, and it's important to keep informed.
Well yes, some things are worse than others, but there's only so far you can go in generalizing such things. As there are various things that one can do that would make any type of internet access better, or worse.
I'm not aware of 5G having anything to do with fiber optics directly, other than the cell towers have to be wired to something to get to the internet at large, and that wiring could be fiber optics (or something else). But that applies to every other form of internet access. I'm sure that my message to this forum probably travels over fiber optics at some point, even though my internet access comes from my cable TV company.
None of these technologies is 100% safe, because in the end, you will need to plug an electrical data cable into your computer in order to communicate with the outside world, and this cable can always carry EMF with it.
But if you use any wireless technology, you will irradiate yourself and the whole environment. If you use any wired technology, you will only irradiate a small area around the cable, and if you use fiber optics, you will not irradiate anything.
So, fiber optics is in principle the best option. BUT, keep in mind that even the light that travels in the cable, will have to be converted to electricity for your computer. And since this converter (the fiber optic modem) is itself a computer, it may produce local EMF.
There is no way around this problem, because all our computers today still run on electricity, and therefore in the end any communication with the computer has to be in electrical form.
So..optical is the safest, but anyone choosing optical, has to be aware that the optical converters at the end of the cable may cause trouble for some people.
As for 5G interfering with optical fibers, or the fibers carrying 5G signals, this is impossible. 5G is radio-frequency radiation, optical fiber is isolated light. These two things cannot influence each other in any way.
If I had a choice, I would choose fiber, but somehow try to check that the fiber modem itself does not cause me trouble.
Yeah, I've seen multiple people on these sorts of groups upgrade to fiber optic, and then immediately have to have it removed as it made their symptoms much worse. I have to assume that it is the modem that is placed in the house that is the problem, and not the fiber optics itself.
That's one reason why I like my cable TV internet, is that I have a choice of dozens of different models of modems, and I can usually find one that I can tolerate. With fiber optics or satellite, your modem choices may be much more limited.
Yeah Marc. It's a good point. With fiber you may not have a choice with the modem. In that sense something like cable gives more options.
I'm hoping one day we will have direct optical inputs on our laptops and desktop computers. Then perhaps we could get rid of the problems with these modems (assuming the converter in the computer itself does not cause trouble of course. Perhaps one day we will get computers that work on light only, and then the whole issue is gone..ha ha).
USI in Minneapolis uses a standard SFP port. But since the contract at my house is handled by someone esle, I haven't asked USI if it's OK to connect directly to a workstation with an SFP port or another router with multiple fiber ports. The box they installed is just a switch with the SFP uplink and four gigabit copper ethernet ports.
Also, I was not aware about the problem with different modems, interesting.
My problem is in the particular place where i have my modem/computer space, is a very high radiation place in general, I can only stay here a couple of hours at a time, at most. It's then difficult for me to separate the different sources of radiation. All the neighbours wifi? Some very old electric counters (not used but still there) showing very high readings on the low frequency meter? Very high reading on most of the electric sockets? The fact that I am on the top floor and have strong coverage? Plus other thing that I might not know about
I do not have a high frequency meter, but I would really need one, but have heard all have some drawback in some way, and can't make up my mind. The radiation does not help lol
Kara yes, this is true. 5G will use fiber optics for its backbone network. But this has nothing to do with 5G wireless radiation. They are using fiber optics simply because there is no other way to transfer all the data to and from the radio towers to the telecom operator and then to the internet.
This is actually what is so silly about 5G. They will build an enormous fiber optic network for it, but instead of putting the last bit of the fiber cable into our homes, they install radio towers right outside our doors instead. It is total madness. The fiber optic infrastructure would now be there, for fiber to every home, but instead we get RF radiation to every home.
I think a lot of places have fiber optic cabling in place already, and have had for years. So nothing really to do with 5G. I can get home fiber internet right now if I wanted to, through my phone company.
Kara, are you in an apartment? And what type of meter are you using? It's unavoidable that there will be some low frequency magnetic fields near the outlets, because all household wiring uses alternating current that switches back and forth 60 times per second. There's really no way to get rid of it short of switching your wiring to DC and buying all new appliances (or at least new power supplies), or opening up the walls and putting all of the cables into thick steel pipes).
If your meter is detecting intermediate frequencies (it might say "200 Hz" or "200 KHz"), that's also pretty hard to fix. I've tried to clean up the "dirty power" (what engineers call "harmonics") in a shared house with neighbors who sometimes cooperate, and it makes me feel like Captain Ahab. (Store-bought filters didn't work at all, and it wasn't even possible to buy all of the parts needed to make working filters myself.)
On the other hand, low frequency electric fields (E-fields) are easy to fix once you know where they are. And WiFi, cellular or radio can be blocked with metal shielding.