HUAWEI IS HELPING FIGHT CORONAVIRUS BY SETTING UP 5G BASE STATIONS

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Fog Top
Wouldn't Firstenburg say that 5G has created the virus? 



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Thought that was worth a mention..
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/01/26/huawei-coronavirus-5g-base-stations/


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casper
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Lol. Never let a good crisis go to waste, I think is what someone once said. Looks like Huawei is capitalizing.
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sailplane
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Fog Top wrote
Wouldn't Firstenburg say that 5G has created the virus?


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Thought that was worth a mention..
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/01/26/huawei-coronavirus-5g-base-stations/

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Well, if you track dates, Sars came right around the time 3G came out and Swine flu just prior to commercial 4G, so it only makes sense 5G would bring another one. He has 2 chapters in his book about it, but I don't have the book..
Also they say this one may have come out a few months ago but just didn't surface until now.. which would coincide quite exactly with full 5G coverage for Wuhan..

I'm not sure how it works, he says Spanish flu couldn't be transmitted when tried, but it may just be that the people they tried to give it to were already immune, and whoever wasn't immune got it so fast that nobody was left to do tests with. Also I think you can have this virus and become immune without ever getting many symptoms, thus you wouldn't know for sure if you had it.

One thing is for sure that the 5G levels there are lowering immune levels which allows it to spread there, so if it's as I assume, then it will not spread like wildfire out of China, because 5G isn't as widespread. But, as the 20k satellites come online, it will re-surface in the coming year or even years.. and could last a very long time, as 5G is not coming online as fast as 3 or 4G did.

We will see.. confirmation will come if it doesn't spread out of China for a month or two.. then by next winter seasons, with another few hundred satellites up, it may start to spread again in a second wave.. Arthur says a second wave came with Spanish flu as the radar/radio intensified later.

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UphillBattle
who is "Firstenburg" where did he say it, and how do i get a copy for myself?
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sailplane
UphillBattle wrote
who is "Firstenburg" where did he say it, and how do i get a copy for myself?
The book is called the Invisible Rainbow .. You can buy it at https://www.cellphonetaskforce.org/
or amazon.
I don't know if he talks about Sars or Swine flu, I would assume he would, all I could find is that he talks about Spanish flu correlating with first use of radio waves, and he says that it covers two chapters of his book, .. I don't have the book.

This looks like a summary of his book:
https://www.5gexposed.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/English-Summary-of-The-Invisible-Rainbow-A-History-of-Electricity-and-Life-3.pdf

In 1889, full-scale electrification was carried out in the USA and, shortly thereafter, in Europe. That same year, as if by chance, doctors were inundated with cases of flu, which had until then appeared only infrequently. The victims’ symptoms were far more neurological in nature, resembling neurasthenia, and did not include respiratory disorders. The pandemic lasted for four years and killed at least a million people.

In 2001, Canadian astronomer Ken Tapping showed that the influenza pandemics over the previous three centuries correlated with peaks in solar magnetic activity, on an 11- year cycle. It has also been found that some outbreaks of influenza spread over enormous areas in just a few days – a fact that is difficult to explain by contagion from one person to another.

Also, numerous experiments seeking to prove direct contagion through close contact, droplets of mucus or other processes have proved fruitless. From 1933 to the present day, virologists have been unable to present any experimental study proving that influenza spreads through normal contact between people. All attempts to do so have met with failure.


In 1901 there were “only” two transmitters, while in 1904 there were four, making this island the most irradiated place on the planet, leaving bees no room for survival. In 1906, a survey revealed that 90% of the bees had completely disappeared for no apparent reason. New colonies were brought to the island, but these likewise died within a week.

This epidemic spread across England and then across the western world, and then gradually stabilized, until the armies equipped themselves with various high-powered radio transmitters towards the end of the First World War – triggering (as we have seen) the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918, which actually began in the United States, at the Naval Radio School of Cambridge, Massachusetts, with 400 initial cases. This epidemic rapidly spread to 1,127 soldiers at Funston Camp (Kansas), where wireless connections had been installed. What intrigued the doctors was that while 15% of the civilian population were suffering from nosebleeds, 40% of the Navy suffered from them. Other bleeding also occurred, and a third of those who died did so due to internal hemorrhaging of the lungs or brain. In fact, it was the composition of the blood that had been altered, as the measured coagulation time was more than twice as long as normal. These symptoms are incompatible with the effects of the influenza respiratory viruses, but totally consistent with the devastating effects of electricity. Another incongruity was that two-thirds of the victims were healthy young people. A further atypical flu symptom was that the pulse slowed to rates of between 36 and 48, whereas this is a common result of exposure to electromagnetic fields. In addition, it was possible to successfully treat some sufferers with massive doses of calcium.
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>  Well, if you track dates, Sars came right around the time 3G came out

Umm, I just did a quick search, and if what I'm reading is correct, SARS was 8 years before 3G was introduced in China.

I know everyone in these groups likes to blame all of the world's problems on cellphones, but sometimes things are unrelated.  :-)

Marc
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Fog Top
I've found some conflicting info on the timelines of SARS and 3G, but according to this site a SARS outbreak hit China, near Hong Kong, in November 2002  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_SARS_outbreak
perhaps it had occurred earlier but now it was at proportions to call an outbreak or epidemic?

3G in China is reported as: 4 licenses were issued to Hong Kong in Sept 2001 and China had issued 23 licenses for 3G by December 2002 on this site:  https://www.itu.int/itunews/issue/2003/06/thirdgeneration.html


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From: Marc Martin [via ES] <ml+[hidden email]>
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>  Well, if you track dates, Sars came right around the time 3G came out

Umm, I just did a quick search, and if what I'm reading is correct, SARS was 8 years before 3G was introduced in China.

I know everyone in these groups likes to blame all of the world's problems on cellphones, but sometimes things are unrelated.  :-)

Marc



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Ah, well from what I read, China did not have 3G until 2008, 6-7 years after SARS.  In fact, here is an article from 2006 saying that they didn't know when 3G was going to start being used by consumers in China.

  https://www.networkworld.com/article/2305437/chinese-government-drops-hint-on-3g-rollout.html

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And this article indicates that 3G in China started on December 31, 2008.  Many years after SARS.

  https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/bitstream/10453/11515/1/2008008068OK.pdf

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Fog Top
Perhaps the conflicting info is because Hong Kong is often considered as separate from China even though it is part of China.  Hong Kong SAR = Special Administrative Region of the Peoples Republic of China since it ceased being a British colony in 1997 and went back to China. 

This article indicates that in 2002 Hutchinson Whampoa launched a new telecommunications company in Hong Kong called "3" Three -representing its new 3G service covering Hong Kong, Denmark, Sweden, Indonesia, and ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_(telecommunications).



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And this article indicates that 3G in China started on December 31, 2008.  Many years after SARS.

  https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/bitstream/10453/11515/1/2008008068OK.pdf

Marc
 



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Wuhan was one of the first places with 5G trials, as well as several other large Chinese cities, like Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou but we don’t know if it was the first.

The new coronavirus observed in Wuhan is a virus in the same family of viruses as the common cold, but is a different illness. But There is no evidence that 5G can harm humans, or their immune systems.

While there are many point of view on this, Public Health England has said that there’s no “convincing evidence” that exposure below International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation guidelines can cause adverse health effects. These guidelines go up to 300GHz, whereas the maximum for 5G will probably only be in the tens of GHz.

EMFKnowHow is a blog about EMF protection. We strive to bring you the best and latest information on EMF risks and measures you can take to minimize exposure.
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Fog Top
5G combines microwave and millimeter wave wireless radiation. In order for it to work as planned the antennas need to be closer to us and there need to be many, many more of them. 

Most of us are in this group because we have been sickened and injured by exposure to wireless radiation which was/is far below exposure guidelines set by the US Federal Communications Commission - an organization which has been captured by the wireless industry - the very industry which it is supposed to regulate. 

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently reaffirmed the FCC’s 1996 outdated exposure limits.  I for one do not give a flip what some health or government agency has to say about wireless safety because they have no proof that it is safe and have ignored the plethora of research showing that it is biologically harmful.



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Wuhan was one of the first places with 5G trials, as well as several other large Chinese cities, like Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou but we don’t know if it was the first.

The new coronavirus observed in Wuhan is a virus in the same family of viruses as the common cold, but is a different illness. But There is no evidence that 5G can harm humans, or their immune systems.

While there are many point of view on this, Public Health England has said that there’s no “convincing evidence” that exposure below International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation guidelines can cause adverse health effects. These guidelines go up to 300GHz, whereas the maximum for 5G will probably only be in the tens of GHz.

EFKnowHow is a blog about EMF protection. We strive to bring you the best and latest information on EMF risks and measures you can take to minimize exposure.



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Marc Martin
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>  Most of us are in this group because we have been sickened and injured
> by exposure to wireless radiation

Yes, we are not here on this group to debate whether or not this stuff is harmful, because it is assumed that everyone here already has firsthand experience of being harmed.

Marc
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Kitoi
I agree, Marc!

It's possible that the "G's" aren't causing the stated illnesses but I believe it has been determined that the "G's" harms or alters our DNA. Then if that's true is it possible the viruses can be altered, also? Since we're all different that means our susceptibility is different. One of the posts suggested China is rolling out 5G to combat this newest virus. If 5G can to that, and I'm not saying that it can, but IF it can that's further proof, at least to me, that the "G's" are harmful to life.

Where I lived before I had had fiber optic installed and immediately after I felt this burning sensation around me ALL THE TIME and it was very painful to my hands and fingers. Recently I read somewhere that fiber optic is 5G. Does anyone know, is that true?
Peacefulness, Kay

"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel

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Marc Martin
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On January 31, Kitoi [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Recently I read somewhere that
> fiber optic is 5G. Does anyone know, is that true?

Unfortunately, the term "5G" is becoming meaningless, because people are using it for things that have nothing to do with 5G.  
I would say that fiber optics has nothing to do with 5G, although people can react to 5G modems/routers just as they can react to any piece of electronics.

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casper
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Kitoi wrote
Where I lived before I had had fiber optic installed and immediately after I felt this burning sensation around me ALL THE TIME and it was very painful to my hands and fingers. Recently I read somewhere that fiber optic is 5G. Does anyone know, is that true?
Fiber optic is not 5G, other than that the wireless 5G network will need broadband fiber for its backbone infrastructure. So the telecom operators are building fiber networks all over the place, to accommodate all the new bandwidth that will be needed in order to operate the wireless 5G system.

However there are other problems with fiber than can cause the issues that you experienced. One is that the telecom operator tells you the have installed "fiber", but what the actually did was they installed a fiber hub into your house, that also includes a new WiFi or WiGig router in it. So now you have "fiber", but at the end of it they put a microwave device.

The other issue can be caused by dirty electricity, that is generated from the fiber routers themselves, which will pollute your local electricity grid. You can read more about that issue here:

https://www.emfanalysis.com/fiber-optics-increasing-electrical-sensitivity/


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Fog Top
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Fiber Optic cable is needed to feed the antennas that will broadcast 5G, but in itself it is not a wireless 5G broadcast.  I have stayed where the premises were served by just fiber optic cable without a wireless broadcast and felt good.  I did read a post written by Jeromy Johnson, an ES electrical engineer, who stated that he's had reports from some people because sometimes when the fiber optic is connected to a different wire to bring it to the house an inverter is used which then causes ES people problems.


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I agree, Marc!

It's possible that the "G's" aren't causing the stated illnesses but I believe it has been determined that the "G's" harms or alters our DNA. Then if that's true is it possible the viruses can be altered, also? Since we're all different that means our susceptibility is different. One of the posts suggested China is rolling out 5G to combat this newest virus. If 5G can to that, and I'm not saying that it can, but IF it can that's further proof, at least to me, that the "G's" are harmful to life.

Where I lived before I had had fiber optic installed and immediately after I felt this burning sensation around me ALL THE TIME and it was very painful to my hands and fingers. Recently I read somewhere that fiber optic is 5G. Does anyone know, is that true?
Peacefulness, Kay

"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel




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Fog Top
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sorry, hadn't read your reply, Casper - you said it all very well!


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Kitoi wrote
Where I lived before I had had fiber optic installed and immediately after I felt this burning sensation around me ALL THE TIME and it was very painful to my hands and fingers. Recently I read somewhere that fiber optic is 5G. Does anyone know, is that true?
Fiber optic is not 5G, other than that the wireless 5G network will need broadband fiber for its backbone infrastructure. So the telecom operators are building fiber networks all over the place, to accommodate all the new bandwidth that will be needed in order to operate the wireless 5G system.

However there are other problems with fiber than can cause the issues that you experienced. One is that the telecom operator tells you the have installed "fiber", but what the actually did was they installed a fiber hub into your house, that also includes a new WiFi or WiGig router in it. So now you have "fiber", but at the end of it they put a microwave device.

The other issue can be caused by dirty electricity, that is generated from the fiber routers themselves, which will pollute your local electricity grid. You can read more about that issue here:

https://www.emfanalysis.com/fiber-optics-increasing-electrical-sensitivity/





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sailplane
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Marc Martin wrote
>  Well, if you track dates, Sars came right around the time 3G came out

Umm, I just did a quick search, and if what I'm reading is correct, SARS was 8 years before 3G was introduced in China.

I know everyone in these groups likes to blame all of the world's problems on cellphones, but sometimes things are unrelated.  :-)

Marc
Hey Marc,

I think they were talking about 3G of apple Ipods lol.. I just googled when 3G came out and it was one of those Google answers.
Would be great if we had a timeline of 1G 2G 3G 4G .. if you know anywhere to find that.

If they're unrelated, we'd be able to tell better by having this info. Of course the simple fact that a G comes out and then nothing happens right away doesn't mean something will happen later though..

Need something like this:
https://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Chronology

for cell phones.
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