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Lynnezhu
does anyone have theory or experience with emf canopies being bad for health with several month use?  Two practitioners are suggesting mine are bad for me...  I am under them about 14 hours a day but lie on the ground every day to soak up earth...  But since using have had some new health problems.

same question with faraday cages?
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Fog Top

I've been sleeping under one for several years and have felt better than before usage.  The Aaronia Shield canopy and any others that I know of, cannot block extremely low frequency such as comes from the earth.




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does anyone have theory or experience with emf canopies being bad for health with several month use?  Two practitioners are suggesting mine are bad for me...  I am under them about 14 hours a day but lie on the ground every day to soak up earth...  But since using have had some new health problems.

same question with faraday cages?


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Ellen
Fog Top,  Does the RF paint block the earth frequencies?  Ellen
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Fog Top

Here are some specs on Yshield paint which still leaves a question about blocking earth frequency.  Perhaps you could email the company, SafeLiving Technologies and they might be able to tell you.  http://www.slt.co/products/RFShieldingPaint/ShieldingPaint-YShield-HSF54.aspx

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RF Shielding Paint: Yshield HSF54, 1 Litre and 5 Litre Carbon Based, Corrosion Resistant, Radio Frequency Shielding Paint, Attenuation of 36 dB in one layer ...






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Fog Top,  Does the RF paint block the earth frequencies?  Ellen


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emil
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Hello Lynnezhu,

I can not comment on your symptoms, however the canopy should not do
anything to increase your exposure to either electric fields or radio
frequencies unless you bring an RF or electric field source inside the
canopy with you.
Let us know if you have any other questions.

Best regards,


Josh
Less EMF Inc.
776B Watervliet Shaker Rd
Latham, NY 12110 USA
tel: +1-518-608-6479
www.lessemf.com


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does anyone have theory or experience with emf canopies being bad for health
with several month use?  Two practitioners are suggesting mine are bad for
me...  I am under them about 14 hours a day but lie on the ground every day
to soak up earth...  But since using have had some new health problems.

same question with faraday cages?

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superdrove
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You do not specify what you mean by "bad", but you say you are experiencing adverse symptoms from being under the canopy, so I assume it is a problem with the canopy itself picking up frequencies.  

There are two kinds of "bad":

1. Bad because the canopy is picking up Extremely Low Frequencies, or is leaking.  

2. Bad because some people have postulated that sleeping in a shielding canopy may be blocking out beneficial frequencies from the electro-magnetic wave spectrum.

Concerning No.1:  Building biologists do not recommend canopies.  They say cover the walls.  This is mainly because "Extremely low frequencies (4-30 cycles per second) are next to impossible to shield due to the long wavelengths.  Depending on where your canopy is located and positioned, it may be picking up frequencies from the power box, the electrical wires in the wall or floor, from electrical appliances in the area.  Sometimes you can even register a voltage inside the canopy from ELF.  This may be less of a problem with absorbtive sheilding material as opposed to conductive.  Frequencies coming from neighbors devices can also travel through your living space and contaminate the canopy.  Maybe the decibel rating of your fabric is not rated high enough for the frequencies being generated in your neighborhood?  The sources of microwave pollution are ever increasing.  Of course if you or your neighbors have a Smart Meter, that adds another layer of contamination with the possibiiity of the canopy picking up dirty electricity generated on the wires by the Smart Meter and possible scalar waves.  Time to get out your Gauss Meter, measure the area, then measure your body voltage inside and outside the canopy, consider grounding it.  Double check the RF inside and out.  

Concerning No. 2:  There were some serious affects reported by early astronauts who became confused and disorientated when out of Earth’s Schumann resonance field. (7.83 Hz) Later spacecraft employ artificial Schumann effects, and other frequencies to stabilize the brains oscillatory rates. Extremely Low Frequencies getting into the canopy might disrupt the Schumann resonance, but I don't think this is what is causing your symptoms.  If the canopy blocks out certain beneficial cosmic frequencies, it is my opinion that the benefits of shielding from RF greatly outweighs blocking out some cosmic rays, because we know that RF is carcinogenic and breaks DNA strands.  To make up for what cosmic frequencies "might" be blocked out, just make sure to spend some time in the sun during the day to absorb all those healthy rays.

I have been sleeping under shielding material for 5 years now and it has been a life saver.  My problem is that my body absorbs a significant amount of microwave radiation all day long because I live in the city and the RF levels are through the roof.  So when I go to bed and get under the fabric, the radiation emanating from my body seems to reflect off the shielding fabric back at me making me burn for about a half hour.  Then it goes away when it is done dissipating out of my body or being absorbed by my body.  Who knows the mechanism?  I just know I burn for awhile before things settle down.  I can always tell how bad my exposure has been during the day by how much I burn when I get into the canopy.  Some people say this is bad.  That you should ground yourself before getting into the canopy and not go into the canopy after absorbing a lot of radiation. But grounding from a 3 prong outlet is not true grounding.  


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Ellen
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Thank you for response as to whether Yshield paint blocks earth frequencies - I have sent email to company and will report back what they say.  Ellen
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Ellen
Rob from Safe Living Technologies says that the paint does not block the earth frequencies; nothing blocks them.  Ellen
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Lynnezhu
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By 'bad' effects, the practitioners said that I would block the earth's magnetic field...  However I lie on the ground daily...so I would get some of it.

Understand about 'burning'; my exposure is out of home and the canopies do not dissipate that of course...  they protect, but do not dissipate...  How could they?    btw my meters show zero under the canopies...  both cornet and HF 35C frequency meter...  also my canary wireless shows no wi fi. (where I sleep)  however in a higher rad. house some did get thru the fabric...  In that place meter did show the pulsing of a nearby cell tower.  fwiw.  I feel canopies are overall helpful...life saving even...but possibly one needs to rotate in and out from time to time.  Not sure.  tnx for all comments
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charles
The Paint does only work at frequencies starting at 100 MHz.

A Canopy is the very last thing a Baubiologist would recommend.
It attracts electrical fields, the silver wires do have a nasty effect on the breezing air, and many persons do open it after a while.

The only ones that do work for a longer time are those of Aaronia.

Shielding is the best against the walls and windows.
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Fog Top
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The "Swiss Shield" fabric canopies are not effective on the higher frequencies being used by many cell towers today.  I've found the Aaronia Shield canopy to be the best so far and know a person whose life was literally saved by sleeping under one - long story.  I think the only place to buy it in the US is from Aaronia in Georgia, but he overcharges and is not nice to work with.  They can be ordered straight from Aaronia in Germany.




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By 'bad' effects, the practitioners said that I would block the earth's magnetic field...  However I lie on the ground daily...so I would get some of it.

Understand about 'burning'; my exposure is out of home and the canopies do not dissipate that of course...  they protect, but do not dissipate...  How could they?    btw my meters show zero under the canopies...  both cornet and HF 35C frequency meter...  also my canary wireless shows no wi fi. (where I sleep)  however in a higher rad. house some did get thru the fabric...  In that place meter did show the pulsing of a nearby cell tower.  fwiw.  I feel canopies are overall helpful...life saving even...but possibly one needs to rotate in and out from time to time.  Not sure.  tnx for all comments


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Ellen
To discharge some of the built-up body charges at the end of the day, standing barefoot on tin foil sheet or metal cookie sheet for a few minutes (as suggested by Dave Stetzer) might help. I guess you would have to do it after getting into canopy to avoid becoming an "antenna" if surrounding environment outside of canopy is full of EMF/RF.  While in canopy, you could just sit up in bed and put bare feet on it (and then set metal sheet at some distance outside of canopy afterwards).  I have much less experience than others on this listserv -  what do others think of this idea? Ellen  
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Fog Top

That tinfoil idea strikes me as completely ridiculous.  I asked an ES electrical engineer about it years ago when I heard Dave say that, and he said 'ridiculous', also.


I used to live where there was significant ground current (stray voltage) from the power company.  When standing outside the Aaronia canopy, I would receive a shock each time I touched it.  I used a Trifield 100EX and a Gigahertz RF meter and this 'shock' measured significantly on each meter. 


However, when inside the canopy or exiting from it I could never replicate this "shock".  The current appears to ride on the outside of the canopy but not inside, so I began to use a wooden spoon to lift the canopy whenever getting under it. 




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To discharge some of the built-up body charges at the end of the day, standing barefoot on tin foil sheet or metal cookie sheet for a few minutes (as suggested by Dave Stetzer) might help. I guess you would have to do it after getting into canopy to avoid becoming an "antenna" if surrounding environment outside of canopy is full of EMF/RF.  While in canopy, you could just sit up in bed and put bare feet on it (and then set metal sheet at some distance outside of canopy afterwards).  I have much less experience than others on this listserv -  what do others think of this idea? Ellen  


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SuperLaura
but RF shielding doesn't block magnetic fields does it? I read no difference on my meters as far as magnetic fields go inside or outside canopies. I wish it blocked magnetic fields because there are a lot of bad magnetic fields around....

I have a blushield device I use inside my tent.. it gives off the 7.83 frequency to mimic the frequency of the earth
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SuperLaura
I had some problems with my sleeping arrangement because the material is highly conductive. I didn't buy a canopy though I bought a sleeping bag so its much more confined. I've since updated it and turned the bag into more of a canopy/tent. I would say avoid a conductive canopy because it can raise your body voltage which can make it very hard to sleep and cause nasty side effects. I had huge problems with the conductivity and it only got worse when I first tried grounding my sleeping bag at night to the outlet. Even if it is grounded it can still be bad for you because the voltage is still going through your body. I can only use a grounding rod stuck in the ground now which while helping to diffuse some of the electrical fields and body voltage also helps me sleep better being connected to the earth. Even with the grounding rod stuck in the ground I have to be very careful the cord that connects the sheet to the ground doesn't come into contact with any electrical fields or it will carry it along the wire to the earthing sheet/conductive sleeping bag. Getting my sleep situation working has always been a very delicate balance of multiple things :/
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robert
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That is interesting . That the body can - healing crisis-like - detox some of the microwave bombardment through a microwave or energy discharge or something like that?    I stayed in a microwave free
 place for a week - could not sleep, felt terrible, may have been some healing reaction my body needed to go through.
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