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Started on Concentrace yesterday.
Felt tingles in the face, as with usual allergic
reactions or sensitivities. Went on the whole day.
One drop x 3 throughout the day.

The second day, took 3 drops in a glass of water,
and none after.

Stronger reaction to foods, tingling and slight swelling.
Taste remained all day long until late at night.

I heard similar from one other person -
exacerbated symptoms and unpleasant sensations.

Any info on the above and ion channels
and minerals appreciated.

K


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furstc0404-2

PS.  MRI triggered the same...

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> Started on Concentrace yesterday.
> Felt tingles in the face, as with usual allergic
> reactions or sensitivities. Went on the whole day.
> One drop x 3 throughout the day.
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> The second day, took 3 drops in a glass of water,
> and none after.
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> Stronger reaction to foods, tingling and slight swelling.
> Taste remained all day long until late at night.
>
> I heard similar from one other person -
> exacerbated symptoms and unpleasant sensations.
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> Any info on the above and ion channels
> and minerals appreciated.
>
> K
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This is what I have used for the past 4 years. I buy the crystal salt rocks and make my own salt brine.
Then I add this to my water, and sometimes to my foot soak.
I make sure the water I use to make the brine is as clean as possible. A container of the rocks lasts a looong
time.
Lizzie
Himalayan Salt | Natural Cooking Salt - Mercola.comproducts.mercola.com/himalayan-salt/

Himalayan Salt | Natural Bath Salt - Mercola.comproducts.mercola.com/himalayan-salt/bath-salt.htm
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Started on Concentrace yesterday.

Felt tingles in the face, as with usual allergic

reactions or sensitivities. Went on the whole day.

One drop x 3 throughout the day.



The second day, took 3 drops in a glass of water,

and none after.



Stronger reaction to foods, tingling and slight swelling.

Taste remained all day long until late at night.



I heard similar from one other person -

exacerbated symptoms and unpleasant sensations.



Any info on the above and ion channels

and minerals appreciated.



K





   
     

   
   






       

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Concentrace comes from Utah.
Lizzie
Utah | Water Contamination From Fracking (Hydraulic Fracturing)www.water-contamination-from-shale.com/utah/utah/



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Started on Concentrace yesterday.

Felt tingles in the face, as with usual allergic

reactions or sensitivities. Went on the whole day.

One drop x 3 throughout the day.



The second day, took 3 drops in a glass of water,

and none after.



Stronger reaction to foods, tingling and slight swelling.

Taste remained all day long until late at night.



I heard similar from one other person -

exacerbated symptoms and unpleasant sensations.



Any info on the above and ion channels

and minerals appreciated.



K





   
     

   
   






       

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I am concerned about the biochemical reactions
to concentrated minerals.  React to sea salt and celtic
salts, not to Himalayan salts.  Mineral content in Himalayan
salts are minimal and was not helpful.  The Concentrace
manage to get rid of the arrythmias, but increased sensitivities,
allergies and sensations.

I heard similar reaction from two others, but so far,
no explanation as to why.  One reacted to manganese.


--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> Lizzie
> Utah | Water Contamination From Fracking (Hydraulic Fracturing)www.water-contamination-from-shale.com/utah/utah/
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The body and especially the "heart"  needs large amounts of Magnesium and in a form that the body can absorb easily;
such as the Magnesium Chloride oil, (soaking in it or foot soaks). It is possible that the concentrace contained
some magnesium, which might explain why it helped with the arrythmias; however because the product is coming from a high
fracking area, it could contain contaminates, which could explain your reaction.  I agree it is important for the body to have trace minerals,
such as those found in sea salt, ect.  However, Magnesium is not considered a trace mineral.

Read the below article. Scroll down the heading: Magnesium, Ultimate Heart Medicine.
Lizzie




Magnesium For Life | Transdermal Magnesium
Chloride Therapy ... magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-and-autism/Cached - Similar



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I am concerned about the biochemical reactions

to concentrated minerals.  React to sea salt and celtic

salts, not to Himalayan salts.  Mineral content in Himalayan

salts are minimal and was not helpful.  The Concentrace

manage to get rid of the arrythmias, but increased sensitivities,

allergies and sensations.



I heard similar reaction from two others, but so far,

no explanation as to why.  One reacted to manganese.



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> Lizzie

> Utah | Water Contamination From Fracking (Hydraulic Fracturing)www.water-contamination-from-shale.com/utah/utah/

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furstc0404-2

Thanks, Lizzie,
am pursuing something else different here,
how and why do some people react to minerals?
I get your point about the one sourced from Utah.

About Magnesium:  aware of its benefits, tried that,
and didn't help with arrythmias.  Its not the only mineral
involved in cardiac electro conductivity.

I am interested on how minerals affect ion channels
both positive and negative.

The symptoms I have now, are the same as I had
post MRI, including sensitivity to drinking water.
This took a few weeks to resolve.


--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> The body and especially the "heart"  needs large amounts of Magnesium and in a form that the body can absorb easily;
> such as the Magnesium Chloride oil, (soaking in it or foot soaks). It is possible that the concentrace contained
> some magnesium, which might explain why it helped with the arrythmias; however because the product is coming from a high
> fracking area, it could contain contaminates, which could explain your reaction.  I agree it is important for the body to have trace minerals,
> such as those found in sea salt, ect.  However, Magnesium is not considered a trace mineral.
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> Read the below article. Scroll down the heading: Magnesium, Ultimate Heart Medicine.
> Lizzie
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> Magnesium For Life | Transdermal Magnesium
> Chloride Therapy ... magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-and-autism/Cached - Similar
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> salts are minimal and was not helpful.  The Concentrace
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> manage to get rid of the arrythmias, but increased sensitivities,
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> allergies and sensations.
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furstc0404-2

Lizzie, although it has certification of purity
and approved by GRAS etc... you have a point
that it may be contaminated!!

Will look more into this and post to on another forum,
where others reported no such reaction to this product.

--- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote:

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> Thanks, Lizzie,
> am pursuing something else different here,
> how and why do some people react to minerals?
> I get your point about the one sourced from Utah.
>
> About Magnesium:  aware of its benefits, tried that,
> and didn't help with arrythmias.  Its not the only mineral
> involved in cardiac electro conductivity.
>
> I am interested on how minerals affect ion channels
> both positive and negative.
>
> The symptoms I have now, are the same as I had
> post MRI, including sensitivity to drinking water.
> This took a few weeks to resolve.
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> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
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> > The body and especially the "heart"  needs large amounts of Magnesium and in a form that the body can absorb easily;
> > such as the Magnesium Chloride oil, (soaking in it or foot soaks). It is possible that the concentrace contained
> > some magnesium, which might explain why it helped with the arrythmias; however because the product is coming from a high
> > fracking area, it could contain contaminates, which could explain your reaction.  I agree it is important for the body to have trace minerals,
> > such as those found in sea salt, ect.  However, Magnesium is not considered a trace mineral.
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> > Lizzie
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Hi,
You said: The symptoms I have now, are the same as I had

post MRI, including sensitivity to drinking water.

This took a few weeks to resolve.

When you had the MRI, did they inject you with the Dye?  See below links on the dangers of these dyes.
See below links regarding radiation in fracking water.
See link in purple print which discusses ion transport. It sounds to me like the high magnetic field from the MRI
reversed the body's polarity, meaning its like the cells are spinning the wrong way- reverse polarity. Basically
this means the cells are not able to absorb nutrients, or excrete toxins.
(this happened to my daughter-I finally resolved this using a a therapy magnet on NOrth side polarity.)

Bottom line? If there was dye in the MRI, this dye has been associated with several health problems.
The Magnetic field itself, from MRI's, cannot in my mind, possibly be safe, considering most people
DO have heavy metals in their bodies. See article titled: Electro Magnetic Field- Hazardous to Health below.
Waters, areas that have been contaminated from fracking, they are also finding radiation in these areas.
Note: the first article below has some very obvious errors in it. The MRI's also use RF, something I was not aware of.

These articles might help shed some light for you.
LIzzie

Are there any publications that say if high magnetic fields can cause ...www.reddit.com/r/.../are_there_any_publications_that_say_if_high/

Interestingly (and somewhat disturbingly, for me and my colleagues), one recent publication
 showed that the rapidly varying dynamic field can also have an acute
effect on glucose metabolism in the brain, decreasing it in areas where
the field varied most. The mechanism is still unknown, but the authors
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The decreases in the normalized metabolic measures during the EPI
readout gradients could reflect the inhibitory effects of
electromagnetic fields on inorganic ion transport, second messengers,
neurotransmitter activity and/or neuronal metabolism and the molecular
mechanism(s) merit further investigation .





Radiation in fracking
fluid a new concern

shale.sites.post-gazette.com/.../23894-radiation-in-fracking-fluid-a-ne..



New York Times Reveals Secret Fracking Documents
Showing ...

www.treehugger.com/.../new-york-times-reveals-secret-fracking-doc..




More news on the dangers of MRI Contrast Dye « Kidney
in the News..

kidneyinthenews.wordpress.com/.../more-news-on-the-dangers-of-mr.

Make sure you scroll down on this one and read the comments.



Your next MRI could cost you your life

9/13/2010
- Patients who undergo magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans are often given
drug injections to enhance the quality of scan images. But the U.S. Food and
Drug Administration (FDA) recently announced that these drugs will now require
a black box warning label--the strongest in the industry--because they...



Learn more: MRI news and articles http://www.naturalnews.com/MRI.html#ixzz1soBqNajG





MRI Dyes Poisoning Patients, Turning Skin into
"Marble"

5/30/2008
- In some patients with kidney problems, a common dye used in magnetic
resonance imaging (MRI) tests may lead to an incurable and potentially fatal
disease that causes skin to turn hard and immobile. Nephrogenic systemic
fibrosis (NSF) is a poorly understood medical condition in which collagen
builds...



Learn more: MRI news and articles http://www.naturalnews.com/MRI.html#ixzz1soCN7Jw0Electro Magnetic Field (EMF) - Hazardous to Our Health?emf.mercola.com/sites/emf/emf-dangers.aspx



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Thanks, Lizzie,

am pursuing something else different here,

how and why do some people react to minerals?

I get your point about the one sourced from Utah.



About Magnesium:  aware of its benefits, tried that,

and didn't help with arrythmias.  Its not the only mineral

involved in cardiac electro conductivity.



I am interested on how minerals affect ion channels

both positive and negative.



The symptoms I have now, are the same as I had

post MRI, including sensitivity to drinking water.

This took a few weeks to resolve.



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> The body and especially the "heart"  needs large amounts of Magnesium and in a form that the body can absorb easily;

> such as the Magnesium Chloride oil, (soaking in it or foot soaks). It is possible that the concentrace contained

> some magnesium, which might explain why it helped with the arrythmias; however because the product is coming from a high

> fracking area, it could contain contaminates, which could explain your reaction.  I agree it is important for the body to have trace minerals,

> such as those found in sea salt, ect.  However, Magnesium is not considered a trace mineral.

>

> Read the below article. Scroll down the heading: Magnesium, Ultimate Heart Medicine.

> Lizzie

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> Magnesium For Life | Transdermal Magnesium

> Chloride Therapy ... magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-and-autism/Cached - Similar

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Elizabeth thode
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I found some more articles, covering potential areas of concern for you.
Yea, I know. People are trying so hard to help themselves. Shame on these
companies for not doing a better job of product purity. When I saw the initial posting, I looked
at the product, didn't know about the utah fracking thing, it was more  I just didn't get a good feeling
from that product.
Take time to read thru all the links I sent. Very interesting stuff. I knew about the high magnetic fields
in MRI"s and this is one of the things I tend to "react to". But I didn't know about the RF part of MRI's.
Learn something new every day.

Hope there's something in these links that help.
Lizzie

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Lizzie, although it has certification of purity

and approved by GRAS etc... you have a point

that it may be contaminated!!



Will look more into this and post to on another forum,

where others reported no such reaction to this product.



--- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote:

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> Thanks, Lizzie,

> am pursuing something else different here,

> how and why do some people react to minerals?

> I get your point about the one sourced from Utah.

>

> About Magnesium:  aware of its benefits, tried that,

> and didn't help with arrythmias.  Its not the only mineral

> involved in cardiac electro conductivity.

>

> I am interested on how minerals affect ion channels

> both positive and negative.

>

> The symptoms I have now, are the same as I had

> post MRI, including sensitivity to drinking water.

> This took a few weeks to resolve.

>

>

> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > The body and especially the "heart"  needs large amounts of Magnesium and in a form that the body can absorb easily;

> > such as the Magnesium Chloride oil, (soaking in it or foot soaks). It is possible that the concentrace contained

> > some magnesium, which might explain why it helped with the arrythmias; however because the product is coming from a high

> > fracking area, it could contain contaminates, which could explain your reaction.  I agree it is important for the body to have trace minerals,

> > such as those found in sea salt, ect.  However, Magnesium is not considered a trace mineral.

> >

> > Read the below article. Scroll down the heading: Magnesium, Ultimate Heart Medicine.

> > Lizzie

> >

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> > Magnesium For Life | Transdermal Magnesium

> > Chloride Therapy ... magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-and-autism/Cached - Similar

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> > To: [hidden email]

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furstc0404-2
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Thanks for the info.

Could you tell me how to use the magnet
on North side polarity and where to read about
it?  

Many thanks,

K

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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>
> Hi,
> You said: The symptoms I have now, are the same as I had
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> post MRI, including sensitivity to drinking water.
>
> This took a few weeks to resolve.
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> When you had the MRI, did they inject you with the Dye?  See below links on the dangers of these dyes.
> See below links regarding radiation in fracking water.
> See link in purple print which discusses ion transport. It sounds to me like the high magnetic field from the MRI
> reversed the body's polarity, meaning its like the cells are spinning the wrong way- reverse polarity. Basically
> this means the cells are not able to absorb nutrients, or excrete toxins.
> (this happened to my daughter-I finally resolved this using a a therapy magnet on NOrth side polarity.)
>
> Bottom line? If there was dye in the MRI, this dye has been associated with several health problems.
> The Magnetic field itself, from MRI's, cannot in my mind, possibly be safe, considering most people
> DO have heavy metals in their bodies. See article titled: Electro Magnetic Field- Hazardous to Health below.
> Waters, areas that have been contaminated from fracking, they are also finding radiation in these areas.
> Note: the first article below has some very obvious errors in it. The MRI's also use RF, something I was not aware of.
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> These articles might help shed some light for you.
> LIzzie
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> Are there any publications that say if high magnetic fields can cause ...www.reddit.com/r/.../are_there_any_publications_that_say_if_high/
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> Interestingly (and somewhat disturbingly, for me and my colleagues), one recent publication
>  showed that the rapidly varying dynamic field can also have an acute
> effect on glucose metabolism in the brain, decreasing it in areas where
> the field varied most. The mechanism is still unknown, but the authors
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> - Patients who undergo magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans are often given
> drug injections to enhance the quality of scan images. But the U.S. Food and
> Drug Administration (FDA) recently announced that these drugs will now require
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> disease that causes skin to turn hard and immobile. Nephrogenic systemic
> fibrosis (NSF) is a poorly understood medical condition in which collagen
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> how and why do some people react to minerals?
>
> I get your point about the one sourced from Utah.
>
>
>
> About Magnesium:  aware of its benefits, tried that,
>
> and didn't help with arrythmias.  Its not the only mineral
>
> involved in cardiac electro conductivity.
>
>
>
> I am interested on how minerals affect ion channels
>
> both positive and negative.
>
>
>
> The symptoms I have now, are the same as I had
>
> post MRI, including sensitivity to drinking water.
>
> This took a few weeks to resolve.
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The body and especially the "heart"  needs large amounts of Magnesium and in a form that the body can absorb easily;
>
> > such as the Magnesium Chloride oil, (soaking in it or foot soaks). It is possible that the concentrace contained
>
> > some magnesium, which might explain why it helped with the arrythmias; however because the product is coming from a high
>
> > fracking area, it could contain contaminates, which could explain your reaction.  I agree it is important for the body to have trace minerals,
>
> > such as those found in sea salt, ect.  However, Magnesium is not considered a trace mineral.
>
> >
>
> > Read the below article. Scroll down the heading: Magnesium, Ultimate Heart Medicine.
>
> > Lizzie
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> > Magnesium For Life | Transdermal Magnesium
>
> > Chloride Therapy ... magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-and-autism/Cached - Similar
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Marc Martin
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> Lizzie, although it has certification of purity
> and approved by GRAS etc... you have a point
> that it may be contaminated!!

This may not be a contamination issue at all.
If one consumes good minerals,
the body can exchange those good minerals for
those bad minerals that are currently in your
body.  Those mobilized bad minerals can then
cause symptoms if they are not excreted.

Marc
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furstc0404-2

Quite a dilemma!!  
It was effective - zero arrythmia
Not coincidental.  Tried it for three days.
Had to give up.  Ended up in ER last night
swollen mucous at the back of the throat,
lasted six hours.  Took no meds, waited it out.

Definitely allergic to something in it, or ???

What do you mean by bad minerals?
How to excrete safely?

More importantly, I need the minerals.
Ordered on line Dr Morten's plant sourced
minerals.  

>
> This may not be a contamination issue at all.
> If one consumes good minerals,
> the body can exchange those good minerals for
> those bad minerals that are currently in your
> body.  Those mobilized bad minerals can then
> cause symptoms if they are not excreted.
>
> Marc
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Marc Martin
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> What do you mean by bad minerals?
> How to excrete safely?

Well, a bad mineral might be mercury, aluminum, lead...
getting these safely out of the body is a controversial
topic, but there are plenty of protocols / products to
try.  Just be careful... folks with ES can potentially have
a bad reaction to anything...

Marc
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Elizabeth thode
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We all need trace minerals, but I seriously doubt anyone needs
what's in this product. No wonder you had a reaction.

HOLY CRAP!
Did ya happen to take a LOOK at the ingredients
in Morten's product???????????
Contains MERCURY! Plus other heavy metals- I have high lighted these,
take from the label of this product.

Now I have to ask, why in the world, would a TOXIC mineral,
be included in a supposed health product!
Lizzie

Each bottle of Trace Minerals contains 1 ounce.
 
 

 
    Range of 4.5 - 27  

    grams per liter
     
    Range of  0.10 - 230

    milligrams per liter
     
    Range of <0.50 - 145  

    micrograms per liter
 
 
    Iron

Magnesium

Sulfur

Aluminum
     
    Chromium

      Calcium

      Carbon

      Phosphorus

      Nickel

      Bismuth

      Manganese

      Silicon

      Selenium

      Zinc

      Boron

      Cobalt

      Lanthanum

      Thalium

      Thulium

      Germanium

      Beryllium

      Thenium

      Tin

      Antimony

      Cerium

      Cesium

      Arsenic

      Zirconium

      Strontium

      Neodymium

      Lead

      Chlorine

      Lithium

      Bromine

      Sodium

      Yittrium

      Gadolinium

      Samarium

      Titanium

      Potassium

      Iodine

      Fluorine

      Cadmium

      Mercury

    Dysprosium
     
    Rubidium

      Erbium

      Vanadium

      Scandium

      Yitterbium

      Rutherium

      Lutetium

      Holmium

      Praseodymium

      Terbium

      Barium

      Tellurium

      Niobium

      Copper

      Palladium

      Halfnium

      Tantalum

      Tungsten

      Molybdenum

      Europium

      Gallium

      Gold

      Osmium

      Platinum

      Rhodium

      Indium

      Silver

      Thorium

    Iridium

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Quite a dilemma!!  

It was effective - zero arrythmia

Not coincidental.  Tried it for three days.

Had to give up.  Ended up in ER last night

swollen mucous at the back of the throat,

lasted six hours.  Took no meds, waited it out.



Definitely allergic to something in it, or ???



What do you mean by bad minerals?

How to excrete safely?



More importantly, I need the minerals.

Ordered on line Dr Morten's plant sourced

minerals.  



>

> This may not be a contamination issue at all.

> If one consumes good minerals,

> the body can exchange those good minerals for

> those bad minerals that are currently in your

> body.  Those mobilized bad minerals can then

> cause symptoms if they are not excreted.

>

> Marc

>





   
     

   
   






       

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Marc Martin
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> HOLY CRAP!
> Did ya happen to take a LOOK at the ingredients
> in Morten's product???????????
> Contains MERCURY! Plus other heavy metals- I have high lighted these,
> take from the label of this product.

Well, I think EVERYTHING contains mercury in some amount.  So the
question becomes HOW MUCH mercury is in this product, and is this
more than the amount of mercury found in things considered to be
uncontaminated...

Marc


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furstc0404-2
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Heavy metals by mouth in small quantities can also be
healing as in homeopathy, Tibetan medicine, Ayurvedic
medicine.

Mercury toxicity is from inhalation.  But of course, it can be toxic
if taken in large quantities, as for any other minerals.

I know that the Tibetan and Ayur docs use those,
its processed in a special way and is not toxic.

They had bad press for a while.  Further readings
show that indeed its processed in specific way,
as to be harmless.

Same for arsenic, it can also be therapeutic as for cancer cells.

I have to choose between getting the minerals which I severely
lack somehow, or risk a heart attack or stroke with those constant
arrythmias.

I was over the moon when I took the Concentrace, even though
it cause an allergic response, gone were the arrythmias.

There is no simple answer.  I can eat about 10 foods and drink
water.  But since the reaction to the Concentrace, I can only eat
4 out of the ten foods.

There is a real urgency to supplement those minerals.  I tried
nettle which contains high amount of minerals, but reacted to that
too.  Constantly trying and striving to find a solution. Time is
no longer a luxury.



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>
>
> We all need trace minerals, but I seriously doubt anyone needs
> what's in this product. No wonder you had a reaction.
>
> HOLY CRAP!
> Did ya happen to take a LOOK at the ingredients
> in Morten's product???????????
> Contains MERCURY! Plus other heavy metals- I have high lighted these,
> take from the label of this product.
>
> Now I have to ask, why in the world, would a TOXIC mineral,
> be included in a supposed health product!
> Lizzie
>
> Each bottle of Trace Minerals contains 1 ounce.
>  
>  
>
>  
>     Range of 4.5 - 27  
>
>     grams per liter
>      
>     Range of  0.10 - 230
>
>     milligrams per liter
>      
>     Range of <0.50 - 145  
>
>     micrograms per liter
>  
>  
>     Iron
>
> Magnesium
>
> Sulfur
>
> Aluminum
>      
>     Chromium
>
>       Calcium
>
>       Carbon
>
>       Phosphorus
>
>       Nickel
>
>       Bismuth
>
>       Manganese
>
>       Silicon
>
>       Selenium
>
>       Zinc
>
>       Boron
>
>       Cobalt
>
>       Lanthanum
>
>       Thalium
>
>       Thulium
>
>       Germanium
>
>       Beryllium
>
>       Thenium
>
>       Tin
>
>       Antimony
>
>       Cerium
>
>       Cesium
>
>       Arsenic
>
>       Zirconium
>
>       Strontium
>
>       Neodymium
>
>       Lead
>
>       Chlorine
>
>       Lithium
>
>       Bromine
>
>       Sodium
>
>       Yittrium
>
>       Gadolinium
>
>       Samarium
>
>       Titanium
>
>       Potassium
>
>       Iodine
>
>       Fluorine
>
>       Cadmium
>
>       Mercury
>
>     Dysprosium
>      
>     Rubidium
>
>       Erbium
>
>       Vanadium
>
>       Scandium
>
>       Yitterbium
>
>       Rutherium
>
>       Lutetium
>
>       Holmium
>
>       Praseodymium
>
>       Terbium
>
>       Barium
>
>       Tellurium
>
>       Niobium
>
>       Copper
>
>       Palladium
>
>       Halfnium
>
>       Tantalum
>
>       Tungsten
>
>       Molybdenum
>
>       Europium
>
>       Gallium
>
>       Gold
>
>       Osmium
>
>       Platinum
>
>       Rhodium
>
>       Indium
>
>       Silver
>
>       Thorium
>
>     Iridium
>
> To: [hidden email]
> From: furstc0404@...
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:08:30 +0000
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Concentrace Ionic Minerals - strong reaction & MRI
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> Quite a dilemma!!  
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> It was effective - zero arrythmia
>
> Not coincidental.  Tried it for three days.
>
> Had to give up.  Ended up in ER last night
>
> swollen mucous at the back of the throat,
>
> lasted six hours.  Took no meds, waited it out.
>
>
>
> Definitely allergic to something in it, or ???
>
>
>
> What do you mean by bad minerals?
>
> How to excrete safely?
>
>
>
> More importantly, I need the minerals.
>
> Ordered on line Dr Morten's plant sourced
>
> minerals.  
>
>
>
> >
>
> > This may not be a contamination issue at all.
>
> > If one consumes good minerals,
>
> > the body can exchange those good minerals for
>
> > those bad minerals that are currently in your
>
> > body.  Those mobilized bad minerals can then
>
> > cause symptoms if they are not excreted.
>
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> > Marc
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furstc0404-2
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All minerals can be bad if not excreted...

Read some of the models for excreting minerals.
Found them unsafe for the most part.

If the detoxifying pathways are inadequate,
how safe is to detox??

This needs to be addressed, and the mechanism
for accumulation of some heavy metals.

K


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > What do you mean by bad minerals?
> > How to excrete safely?
>
> Well, a bad mineral might be mercury, aluminum, lead...
> getting these safely out of the body is a controversial
> topic, but there are plenty of protocols / products to
> try.  Just be careful... folks with ES can potentially have
> a bad reaction to anything...
>
> Marc
>


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Elizabeth thode

IF the detoxification pathways are blocked, detox would be a disaster.
This would end up with a build up of toxins, unable to get out of the body.

Now, as to Tibetian, ect, homeopathic methods, I have come to the conclusion
that these therapies worked much better in the old days, when our world was
not being constantly bombarded with toxins, and constantly assaulted by wireless
radiation. Wireless radiation, multiplies these toxins by 600%, according to Dr.
Dietrich Klinghardt.
To me, it doesn't make good sense to ADD to the body's
already over loaded toxic burden. You took a very small amount of the concentrac,
and look what happened. My best guess is, not so much that your body was unable
to use the good minerals, but that the product contains toxic minerals and who
knows how much of the bad minerals the product contained; apparently in your
case, enough to cause a severe reaction.
The only cases I have heard about, who were helped by homeopathic remedies,
were using the old style technique, by a very competent dr, and under strict
supervision of that Homeopathic dr. And the process was long and drawn out.
This means paying the office visit fees every week for such a procedure. These
cases I know about- took place years ago, before the cell phne/smart meter/wifi proliferation-
Which is why I don't have high confidence in this technique today, because the
environment is very different today, due to the radiation from wireless, then it was
ten years ago.
Lizzie


To: [hidden email]
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:05:19 +0000
Subject: [eSens] Re: Concentrace Ionic Minerals - Mecury
















 



 


   
     
     
     

All minerals can be bad if not excreted...



Read some of the models for excreting minerals.

Found them unsafe for the most part.



If the detoxifying pathways are inadequate,

how safe is to detox??



This needs to be addressed, and the mechanism

for accumulation of some heavy metals.



K



--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>

> > What do you mean by bad minerals?

> > How to excrete safely?

>

> Well, a bad mineral might be mercury, aluminum, lead...

> getting these safely out of the body is a controversial

> topic, but there are plenty of protocols / products to

> try.  Just be careful... folks with ES can potentially have

> a bad reaction to anything...

>

> Marc

>





   
     

   
   






       

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alstrup
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Magnesium is a vital electrolyte for heart, it seems you have a serious deficiency, try topical transdermal magnesium oil from the Zechstein source


http://www.zechsteinmagnesium.com/

You can order a genuine Zechstein product here

http://www.iherb.com/Life-Flo-Health-Pure-Magnesium-Oil-8-oz-236-6-ml/33840
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Flo-Health-Pure-Magnesium-Flakes-Magnesium-Chloride-Brine-2-75-lb-44-oz/39710

Potassium - best food source is to drink pure coconut water, not from concentrate. Brands like Vitacoco or O.N.E are found in 32 oz. natural.

 



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> From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Monday, 23 April 2012, 22:01
>Subject: [eSens] Re: Concentrace Ionic Minerals - strong reaction & MRI
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>

>
>
>Heavy metals by mouth in small quantities can also be
>healing as in homeopathy, Tibetan medicine, Ayurvedic
>medicine.
>
>Mercury toxicity is from inhalation.  But of course, it can be toxic
>if taken in large quantities, as for any other minerals.
>
>I know that the Tibetan and Ayur docs use those,
>its processed in a special way and is not toxic.
>
>They had bad press for a while.  Further readings
>show that indeed its processed in specific way,
>as to be harmless.
>
>Same for arsenic, it can also be therapeutic as for cancer cells.
>
>I have to choose between getting the minerals which I severely
>lack somehow, or risk a heart attack or stroke with those constant
>arrythmias.
>
>I was over the moon when I took the Concentrace, even though
>it cause an allergic response, gone were the arrythmias.
>
>There is no simple answer.  I can eat about 10 foods and drink
>water.  But since the reaction to the Concentrace, I can only eat
>4 out of the ten foods.
>
>There is a real urgency to supplement those minerals.  I tried
>nettle which contains high amount of minerals, but reacted to that
>too.  Constantly trying and striving to find a solution. Time is
>no longer a luxury.
>
>--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We all need trace minerals, but I seriously doubt anyone needs
>> what's in this product. No wonder you had a reaction.
>>
>> HOLY CRAP!
>> Did ya happen to take a LOOK at the ingredients
>> in Morten's product???????????
>> Contains MERCURY! Plus other heavy metals- I have high lighted these,
>> take from the label of this product.
>>
>> Now I have to ask, why in the world, would a TOXIC mineral,
>> be included in a supposed health product!
>> Lizzie
>>
>> Each bottle of Trace Minerals contains 1 ounce.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Range of 4.5 - 27
>>
>>     grams per liter
>>
>>     Range of  0.10 - 230
>>
>>     milligrams per liter
>>
>>     Range of <0.50 - 145
>>
>>     micrograms per liter
>>
>>
>>     Iron
>>
>> Magnesium
>>
>> Sulfur
>>
>> Aluminum
>>
>>     Chromium
>>
>>       Calcium
>>
>>       Carbon
>>
>>       Phosphorus
>>
>>       Nickel
>>
>>       Bismuth
>>
>>       Manganese
>>
>>       Silicon
>>
>>       Selenium
>>
>>       Zinc
>>
>>       Boron
>>
>>       Cobalt
>>
>>       Lanthanum
>>
>>       Thalium
>>
>>       Thulium
>>
>>       Germanium
>>
>>       Beryllium
>>
>>       Thenium
>>
>>       Tin
>>
>>       Antimony
>>
>>       Cerium
>>
>>       Cesium
>>
>>       Arsenic
>>
>>       Zirconium
>>
>>       Strontium
>>
>>       Neodymium
>>
>>       Lead
>>
>>       Chlorine
>>
>>       Lithium
>>
>>       Bromine
>>
>>       Sodium
>>
>>       Yittrium
>>
>>       Gadolinium
>>
>>       Samarium
>>
>>       Titanium
>>
>>       Potassium
>>
>>       Iodine
>>
>>       Fluorine
>>
>>       Cadmium
>>
>>       Mercury
>>
>>     Dysprosium
>>
>>     Rubidium
>>
>>       Erbium
>>
>>       Vanadium
>>
>>       Scandium
>>
>>       Yitterbium
>>
>>       Rutherium
>>
>>       Lutetium
>>
>>       Holmium
>>
>>       Praseodymium
>>
>>       Terbium
>>
>>       Barium
>>
>>       Tellurium
>>
>>       Niobium
>>
>>       Copper
>>
>>       Palladium
>>
>>       Halfnium
>>
>>       Tantalum
>>
>>       Tungsten
>>
>>       Molybdenum
>>
>>       Europium
>>
>>       Gallium
>>
>>       Gold
>>
>>       Osmium
>>
>>       Platinum
>>
>>       Rhodium
>>
>>       Indium
>>
>>       Silver
>>
>>       Thorium
>>
>>     Iridium
>>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> From: furstc0404@...
>> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:08:30 +0000
>> Subject: [eSens] Re: Concentrace Ionic Minerals - strong reaction & MRI
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>> It was effective - zero arrythmia
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>> Not coincidental.  Tried it for three days.
>>
>> Had to give up.  Ended up in ER last night
>>
>> swollen mucous at the back of the throat,
>>
>> lasted six hours.  Took no meds, waited it out.
>>
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>> Definitely allergic to something in it, or ???
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you mean by bad minerals?
>>
>> How to excrete safely?
>>
>>
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>> More importantly, I need the minerals.
>>
>> Ordered on line Dr Morten's plant sourced
>>
>> minerals.
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>> >
>>
>> > This may not be a contamination issue at all.
>>
>> > If one consumes good minerals,
>>
>> > the body can exchange those good minerals for
>>
>> > those bad minerals that are currently in your
>>
>> > body.  Those mobilized bad minerals can then
>>
>> > cause symptoms if they are not excreted.
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